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    Re: SGA Fee Proposals

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    Again, for the LOVE of GOD, PLEASE RECRUIT BETTER STUDENTS.

    I'd rather see Tech recruit and admit 6K GREAT students who care about everything at LA Tech long term, rather than to recruit 12K commonplace, boilerplate and unexceptional students who care about nothing but themselves and the first ticket out of town. Louisiana Tech can't afford to have a student body full of freaking narcissists who care about nothing but themselves. For the most part, LA Tech (thru Tops) and the state of Louisiana is already paying the way for most of these little pricks to attend school in Ruston anyway, so why not RECRUIT THE BEST? Why not recruit people that you strongly believe will love and care for the university long term? After reading some of the stupid things said on Twitter by some of our own Tech students, there's no way in hell some of those people could have gotten by me in an admissions interview. As the old saying goes, it ain't "Rocket Surgery". Start sending MANY of these a-holes to NSU and ULM.
    So, please define a great student vs. an unexceptional one. One could say that a top quality educational institution would inspire students to achieve great things and give back to their university and community.

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    Re: SGA Fee Proposals

    I know a great many Tech grads who are extremely exceptional people and very successful in their fields who would never dream of sending a dollar to Tech. It all comes down to how you engage the students and make every aspect of campus life something they want to be involved in. Right now, I don’t want to go to a Tech football game because they have been boring for 9 years. Everything about them is blah. I can understand students finding ANYTHING else to do on game day. Nothing about Tech screams “the place to be AFTER class”. That is what I gather from the students am around every week.

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    Re: SGA Fee Proposals

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    I know a great many Tech grads who are extremely exceptional people and very successful in their fields who would never dream of sending a dollar to Tech. It all comes down to how you engage the students and make every aspect of campus life something they want to be involved in. Right now, I don’t want to go to a Tech football game because they have been boring for 9 years. Everything about them is blah. I can understand students finding ANYTHING else to do on game day. Nothing about Tech screams “the place to be AFTER class”. That is what I gather from the students am around every week.
    Good post. So how does Tech engage more students to give back? It’s not a one size fits all recipe. The game day experience in football is terrible, basketball hasn’t been to the dance in a long while, the bowling team with little funding is producing results. The give more money and things will improve, is the same thing as saying if you paid me more I would do a better job…

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    Re: SGA Fee Proposals

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    Good post. So how does Tech engage more students to give back? It’s not a one size fits all recipe. The game day experience in football is terrible, basketball hasn’t been to the dance in a long while, the bowling team with little funding is producing results. The give more money and things will improve, is the same thing as saying if you paid me more I would do a better job…
    Not being snarky, but if I knew the answer to engaging and keeping 2-3,000 graduates per year engaged over the long term, I wouldn’t be appraising houses. It’s difficult, but we have to be willing to pay good money to someone who knows how to do it.

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    Re: SGA Fee Proposals

    This failure goes directly to the feet of the administration.....both the university as a whole and the athletic administration. The school admin has poisoned the well for making game-time fun for students, and they still don't engage alumni as they should. Epic failure IMO.

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    Re: SGA Fee Proposals

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    I know a great many Tech grads who are extremely exceptional people and very successful in their fields who would never dream of sending a dollar to Tech. It all comes down to how you engage the students and make every aspect of campus life something they want to be involved in. Right now, I don’t want to go to a Tech football game because they have been boring for 9 years. Everything about them is blah. I can understand students finding ANYTHING else to do on game day. Nothing about Tech screams “the place to be AFTER class”. That is what I gather from the students am around every week.
    The first part of this quote really caught my eye = "...very successful in their fields who would never dream of sending a dollar to Tech". I just returned from visiting a Tech grad friend of mine. He was a good friend, only child, both parents passed, and basically didn't have a place to leave his $$$ (mid 60s). During one of our conversations as we were recounting old times, he said that he has willed his estate to Tech once he dies. I told him that we had thought about setting up a scholarship within our major and his response floored me. He said that Tech was NOT interested in that type of scholarship at all. Basically, all they were interested in was $$$ to the general scholarship fund. He had conversations about setting up scholarships within our major and there was no interest from Tech on that at all. They didn't even want to talk about it. All they wanted was the $$ to go to the general scholarship fund. He got the impression that if he wasn't going to will it to the general scholarship fund, then they weren't interested. This would have been within one of the majors within the Engineering program. Oh well............

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    Re: SGA Fee Proposals

    Quote Originally Posted by jycww View Post
    The first part of this quote really caught my eye = "...very successful in their fields who would never dream of sending a dollar to Tech". I just returned from visiting a Tech grad friend of mine. He was a good friend, only child, both parents passed, and basically didn't have a place to leave his $$$ (mid 60s). During one of our conversations as we were recounting old times, he said that he has willed his estate to Tech once he dies. I told him that we had thought about setting up a scholarship within our major and his response floored me. He said that Tech was NOT interested in that type of scholarship at all. Basically, all they were interested in was $$$ to the general scholarship fund. He had conversations about setting up scholarships within our major and there was no interest from Tech on that at all. They didn't even want to talk about it. All they wanted was the $$ to go to the general scholarship fund. He got the impression that if he wasn't going to will it to the general scholarship fund, then they weren't interested. This would have been within one of the majors within the Engineering program. Oh well............
    No one works harder to turn down money than Tech, never seen anything like it

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    Re: SGA Fee Proposals

    Quote Originally Posted by jycww View Post
    The first part of this quote really caught my eye = "...very successful in their fields who would never dream of sending a dollar to Tech". I just returned from visiting a Tech grad friend of mine. He was a good friend, only child, both parents passed, and basically didn't have a place to leave his $$$ (mid 60s). During one of our conversations as we were recounting old times, he said that he has willed his estate to Tech once he dies. I told him that we had thought about setting up a scholarship within our major and his response floored me. He said that Tech was NOT interested in that type of scholarship at all. Basically, all they were interested in was $$$ to the general scholarship fund. He had conversations about setting up scholarships within our major and there was no interest from Tech on that at all. They didn't even want to talk about it. All they wanted was the $$ to go to the general scholarship fund. He got the impression that if he wasn't going to will it to the general scholarship fund, then they weren't interested. This would have been within one of the majors within the Engineering program. Oh well............
    That is the other side of the coin for sure. And maybe that’s part of what turns off some of my acquaintances. If I can’t give money the way I want, then maybe I shouldn’t give it. I understand that.

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    Re: SGA Fee Proposals

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Not being snarky, but if I knew the answer to engaging and keeping 2-3,000 graduates per year engaged over the long term, I wouldn’t be appraising houses. It’s difficult, but we have to be willing to pay good money to someone who knows how to do it.
    It will take a team, one person can’t do it. We need home appraisers, engineers,teachers, ag business, forestry students to make it successful. It amazes me that a school of higher learning is not open or receptive to new/different viewpoints.

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    Re: SGA Fee Proposals

    Was Les Guice actively advocating for this?

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    Re: SGA Fee Proposals

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    It will take a team, one person can’t do it. We need home appraisers, engineers,teachers, ag business, forestry students to make it successful. It amazes me that a school of higher learning is not open or receptive to new/different viewpoints.
    I agree it takes a team to brainstorm and implement good ideas. Are we willing to pay the $45-50,000 starting salary per position for the 3-4 person team it will take to get anyone even halfway committed to doing the job?

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    Re: SGA Fee Proposals

    Quote Originally Posted by THEarmada View Post
    Was Les Guice actively advocating for this?
    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Are we willing to pay the $45-50,000 starting salary per position for the 3-4 person team it will take to get anyone even halfway committed to doing the job?
    No

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    Re: SGA Fee Proposals

    Quote Originally Posted by Amos Moses View Post
    This failure goes directly to the feet of the administration.....both the university as a whole and the athletic administration. The school admin has poisoned the well for making game-time fun for students, and they still don't engage alumni as they should. Epic failure IMO.
    And for the most part never have. What effort has gone into it over the years has been uneven and shaky at best.

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    Re: SGA Fee Proposals

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    The first part of this quote really caught my eye = "...very successful in their fields who would never dream of sending a dollar to Tech". I just returned from visiting a Tech grad friend of mine. He was a good friend, only child, both parents passed, and basically didn't have a place to leave his $$$ (mid 60s). During one of our conversations as we were recounting old times, he said that he has willed his estate to Tech once he dies. I told him that we had thought about setting up a scholarship within our major and his response floored me. He said that Tech was NOT interested in that type of scholarship at all. Basically, all they were interested in was $$$ to the general scholarship fund. He had conversations about setting up scholarships within our major and there was no interest from Tech on that at all. They didn't even want to talk about it. All they wanted was the $$ to go to the general scholarship fund. He got the impression that if he wasn't going to will it to the general scholarship fund, then they weren't interested. This would have been within one of the majors within the Engineering program. Oh well............
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    Re: SGA Fee Proposals

    You know how the “elite thinkers” thought it was a good sales technique to use LTAC as a qualifier for baseball season tix (price gouging)? They’re planning to do that for football and the blue chair backs. The “elite thinkers” have zero clue about the product the are peddling.

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