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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    I thought it was good that Vivek said he would withdraw from Colorado unless Trump was restored. He's the only one who understands that the R race right now is to see who's Trump's pick. I have my problems with Vivek but he's definitely the smartest in the field right now. No one else knows what the game is.

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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    I thought it was good that Vivek said he would withdraw from Colorado unless Trump was restored. He's the only one who understands that the R race right now is to see who's Trump's pick. I have my problems with Vivek but he's definitely the smartest in the field right now. No one else knows what the game is.
    The Swamp will view Vivek's withdrawal as a double win, as he is also an outsider. Vivek has his flaws, but I like a lot about him and hope he remains active in national politics going forward.

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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    46% of those polled, in a national survey, have lost faith and interest in national politics, the two major parties, the whole process of the primaries, how we elect people to office, and more stuff like that. Maybe this is actually a good sign. Before any problem can be solved, one has to first admit THERE IS A PROBLEM!

    I agree with the overall sentiment of what the respondents are saying. Of course, the article tries to blame Trump for this drop in support for the election process. Blah, blah, blah...you know what it said. And of course, the article steered clear of all the hanky-panky that went on, the state legislatures violating the Constitution usurping Congressional power, authority and oversight of national elections, and the Dem-controlled Congress happily allowing it to happen. And the article did not mention all the many election fraud cases being prosecuted across the nation, all of them in blue states and blue cities...lots of wrist-slapping going on as local lib judges want to go easy on their fellow libs. But, the point remains, Americans don't like what is going on with the two major parties.

    And, to be fair, Trump has contributed to this overall erosion of support for the process by not participating in the GOP debates. Yeah, I get it, he's so far out front there was no need to participate. But the debates are, or were, a part of the presidential election process and he thumbed his nose at it. Another part of the process are all the candidates campaigning hard, on the ground, in Iowa. Showing up in cafes and speaking to a "crowd" of 20 people and being very active at the Iowa state fair. It is, or was, part of Americana. Then also campaigning in townhalls in New Hampshire, again to small gatherings. Talking directly with the people, the voters. And on to South Carolina where the campaign began to change, becoming more dependent on mass marketing, TV ads, and speeches to larger crowds. By then, after three contests, the weak candidates drop out and the remainders press on.

    Maybe it is time for a change. Perhaps the destruction of the exclusive two-party system and the advent of stronger third parties is exactly what this nation needs. Thoughts?

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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    I like the campaign efforts with small groups of voters. I wish we had more of that in every state. These small groups jumping on social media immediately after a cafe or town hall meeting would be a great barometer. Debate appearances should be required. GOP, Dem, and other party debates with all nominees before a primary and then at least 1 debate before general. If you don’t meet the qualifications or don’t show up, your name is removed from consideration. By now, we should have the field whittled down to 1 candidate per party with hopefully more than 2 parties represented. I think if we had more time to see the 1 candidate representing GOP, Dems, Green, Indies, and whatever else, then we would really know what each is about and be better able to vote.

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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    Fat boy Christie is out. Says he spent ONLY $12 million on his campaign. Needs to reserve the rest of his war chest for frequent trips to McDonald's.

    Nikki Haley is getting crucified by the staunch Trumpers, of which I am a part, but I agree with Reagan's mantra about not attacking fellow Republicans. It's okay to disagree on policy issues, it's fine to point out differences, but one should stop short of demonizing fellow Republicans. The real enemy are the commie bastards i.e. the democraps. Some of the YouTubers and Bloggers I follow are on the all-out attack against Haley. They are going too far in these attacks, IMO.

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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Fat boy Christie is out. Says he spent ONLY $12 million on his campaign. Needs to reserve the rest of his war chest for frequent trips to McDonald's.

    Nikki Haley is getting crucified by the staunch Trumpers, of which I am a part, but I agree with Reagan's mantra about not attacking fellow Republicans. It's okay to disagree on policy issues, it's fine to point out differences, but one should stop short of demonizing fellow Republicans. The real enemy are the commie bastards i.e. the democraps. Some of the YouTubers and Bloggers I follow are on the all-out attack against Haley. They are going too far in these attacks, IMO.
    Haley might be an exception. She's 100% open borders, definitely not someone I would consider off-base but well-meaning.

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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    Haley might be an exception. She's 100% open borders, definitely not someone I would consider off-base but well-meaning.
    Haley denies being open border. Claims she/South Carolina was sued by the Obummer administration because she had tough laws against illegal immigrants.

    That is what she said the other night during the Fox town hall in Iowa.

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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    The leftist fascists keep calling Trump a dictator.

    Well, I am looking forward to the day when this "dictator" gets back into office so we can get away from all these asinine, Soviet-style executive "mandates". (DEI mandates, mask mandates, electric vehicle stupidity among others.) Yep, democracy is at stake here, and it isn't Trump moving us away from it!

    A pissed off Donald Trump is just what we need.

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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    Someone tried to present DeSantis a "participation trophy" at his event last night. Thanked him for his "participation" and thanks for playing. DeSantis seemed perplexed as he thought, at first, it was legit and it took a moment before DeSantis' handlers ushered the guy out of the building. DeSantis kind of grinned when he realized he had been had. Got to have a sense of humor.

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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    The anti-Trumpers have grown so desperate they are making up new "rules" for what the results of the Iowa Caucus mean. Now they are saying if Trump gets less than 50% of the vote in Iowa it's a defeat since that will mean that more people voted against him than for him. Okay, so if Trump gets 49% and the second-place finisher gets say, 25%, that doesn't mean that 75% of the voters don't want him/her? George Bush in 2000 is the ONLY Republican who won Iowa and went on to win the nomination. With a track record like that it seems to me that losing in Iowa bodes well! It's amazing the lengths the Swampers will go to trying to discredit Trump and sway voters away from him.

    In 2016, the last competitive GOP Iowa Caucus, the results were: Ted Cruz 28%, Trump 24%, Marco Rubio 23%. Hmmm...who won the GOP nomination in 2016?

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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    The polls have just opened and FOX News has already called it for Trump. The final margin and who finishes 2nd is still undecided, but according to exit polling, Trump will win Iowa.

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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    The polls have just opened and FOX News has already called it for Trump. The final margin and who finishes 2nd is still undecided, but according to exit polling, Trump will win Iowa.
    Trump 51% Desantis 21% Haley 20% Vivek 8%. Vivek Ramasamy has dropped out and has endorsed Trump. Can you say, "give me a cabinet position!"

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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    I do not want Vivek in the Big Chair but I think he is a smart guy and we would benefit from him having Trump's ear. He's bright enough to know that too.

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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    I do not want Vivek in the Big Chair but I think he is a smart guy and we would benefit from him having Trump's ear. He's bright enough to know that too.
    I'd love to see him at the podium in the press room. He shuts down MS media quicker and better than anyone. That will never happen.

    Vivek is just here to get his name out there. Nobody knew him until a few months ago.

    Haley is the new Liz Chaney.

    IMO, Desantis will hang around as long as he can to keep the new Liz Chaney out. He'll be there for us if the deep state wins. Then they (MSM) will focus on attacking him.

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    Re: 2024 Presidential Election

    Vivek gave a great speech at Trump's rally in New Hampshire last night. No, really, he nailed it. Then Trump thanked him, spoke highly of him then said "he's going to be working with us, for a long time." There ya go! VP? Maybe, but definitely a cabinet position.

    I like Vikek and he has a future in national politics.

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