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    Re: Marshall withdraws from Indy

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    When you put it that way, Yikes! Maybe now Army will re-think they’re participating and back out too. S
    West Point has too much honor, class and integrity to do that.

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    Re: Marshall withdraws from Indy

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    BTW, Crummy should NOT get the $25K bonus "for making a bowl," he did nothing of the sort.

    Has Vegas opened a line on the game? Probably will be Army by 14, something like that.

    Navy showed how to stymie Army's triple-option by making those late shifts in the DL just before the snap, throwing Army's blocking scheme off. That's the formula. The biggest challenge facing Tech is our offense being able to sustain drives and keep Army's offense on the sidelines.
    I'd feel better about our defense if it wasn't for the fact over half of the two-deep of our DL (including Blay) are in the transfer portal. Hopefully the 3s on the DL are ready to play.

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    Re: Marshall withdraws from Indy

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg Fan View Post
    I'd feel better about our defense if it wasn't for the fact over half of the two-deep of our DL (including Blay) are in the transfer portal. Hopefully the 3s on the DL are ready to play.
    Maybe the guys portaling out will view this as one more chance to show out and audition for what they hope is their new team.

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    Re: Marshall withdraws from Indy

    Delaying access to the portal until after the season is over, or at least until a reasonable date whereby ANY chance of your school being able to play (keep in mind some minor bowls are set after January 1st) has past will help curtail some of this mess. But, I see that even being involved in the playoffs is not stopping players from entering the portal. Texas, UGA, and another team or two have lost players to the portal. Penn State and SMU have lost players too.

    Here's a proposal. College athletics has become nothing but a business, much like professional leagues. Right now, players and coaches and others associated with college sports have it all their way. All the benefits of the system, no drawbacks or accountability. This needs to change. Players need to sign one-year contracts with monetary consequences for not adhering to all the components of it. For instance, player contracts can run from say, March 1 through February 28 and the school has the option to impose monetary penalties for a player/coach departing early, which will include a player's refusal to play in a bowl game (or even a playoff game it seems!). A portion of money due a player/coach is withheld until the end of the contract period. Don't play/coach the bowl game? Then kiss a sizable part of your compensation bye bye. Something has to be done.

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    Re: Marshall withdraws from Indy

    While I agree the portal should be closed until after the season is complete, it is not ideal for schools on the Semester system. If the portal did not open until January, then players would have to wait until Summer to enroll at the new school.

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    Re: Marshall withdraws from Indy

    Quote Originally Posted by sportdawg View Post
    While I agree the portal should be closed until after the season is complete, it is not ideal for schools on the Semester system. If the portal did not open until January, then players would have to wait until Summer to enroll at the new school.
    Good point, but the NCAA is encouraging a lack of loyalty. They did this without considering the consequences

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    Re: Marshall withdraws from Indy

    Quote Originally Posted by sportdawg View Post
    While I agree the portal should be closed until after the season is complete, it is not ideal for schools on the Semester system. If the portal did not open until January, then players would have to wait until Summer to enroll at the new school.
    Then they can enroll in the summer and be eligible to play that fall. They might miss spring training but will be there for fall practice. There has to be some price to pay for all this revolving door jumping around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inudesu View Post
    Maybe the guys portaling out will view this as one more chance to show out and audition for what they hope is their new team.
    I've wondered about this, but I don't know if any of the guys in the portal have any interest in playing in the bowl game, and even if they are interested in playing in the bowl, I don't know if Tech would be agreeable to them doing so. I think it is a given Blay is gone, and playing in the bowl would not raise his profile among schools to which he might transfer. Some of the guys in Tech's portal may have to come back with hat in hand and hope Tech will let them be/stay on the team. Across the college landscape, just because a player enters the portal doesn't mean another school will be interested in them. It seems quite a few FBS portal guys end up on FCS teams.

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    Re: Marshall withdraws from Indy

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Delaying access to the portal until after the season is over, or at least until a reasonable date whereby ANY chance of your school being able to play (keep in mind some minor bowls are set after January 1st) has past will help curtail some of this mess. But, I see that even being involved in the playoffs is not stopping players from entering the portal. Texas, UGA, and another team or two have lost players to the portal. Penn State and SMU have lost players too.

    Here's a proposal. College athletics has become nothing but a business, much like professional leagues. Right now, players and coaches and others associated with college sports have it all their way. All the benefits of the system, no drawbacks or accountability. This needs to change. Players need to sign one-year contracts with monetary consequences for not adhering to all the components of it. For instance, player contracts can run from say, March 1 through February 28 and the school has the option to impose monetary penalties for a player/coach departing early, which will include a player's refusal to play in a bowl game (or even a playoff game it seems!). A portion of money due a player/coach is withheld until the end of the contract period. Don't play/coach the bowl game? Then kiss a sizable part of your compensation bye bye. Something has to be done.
    TOTALLY agree. This has become a minor league business. Players should be signing contracts and learning to live with the consequences of not living up to their end of the contract. Just like they'll do when they hit the "big-time". Hopefully that would end some of this foolishness. This genie isn't going back in the bottle, so let's call it what it is. Business. Part of the contract is that the school will provide an education. In return the player meets certain requirements and then receives payment upon completion of the contract. Maybe some periodic payments during the contract. It's real world. These 17-24-ish year olds want the money...then sign the contract.

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    Re: Marshall withdraws from Indy

    It'd be nice if Tech would provide some information about who's coaching and who's left to play. But Tech isn't very good at communication.

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    Re: Marshall withdraws from Indy

    Quote Originally Posted by BCSDAWG View Post
    It'd be nice if Tech would provide some information about who's coaching and who's left to play. But Tech isn't very good at communication.

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    Re: Marshall withdraws from Indy

    Quote Originally Posted by BCSDAWG View Post
    It'd be nice if Tech would provide some information about who's coaching and who's left to play. But Tech isn't very good at communication.
    It's been reported Tony Franklin is on campus. Don't know how much he can teach in less than 3 weeks.

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    Re: Marshall withdraws from Indy

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    Now there's a guy --Tru Edwards-- that I believe could benefit from playing in this year's Indy Bowl game. He probably gets more exposure in one day with the bowl game, than he did in the entire season. More NFL scouts will be tuned in to this Tech game than any previous one..

    I still think that playing in the Indy Bowl against Miami back in December of 2019 was the reason L'Jarius Sneed and Amik Robertson got drafted back to back (138th & 139th overall) in the April 2020 NFL draft. Btw, both men are still in the NFL today, L'Jarius with Tennessee and Amik with Detroit.

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    Re: Marshall withdraws from Indy

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Now there's a guy --Tru Edwards-- that I believe could benefit from playing in this year's Indy Bowl game. He probably gets more exposure in one day with the bowl game, than he did in the entire season. More NFL scouts will be tuned in to this Tech game than any previous one..

    I still think that playing in the Indy Bowl against Miami back in December of 2019 was the reason L'Jarius Sneed and Amik Robertson got drafted back to back (138th & 139th overall) in the April 2020 NFL draft. Btw, both men are still in the NFL today, L'Jarius with Tennessee and Amik with Detroit.
    Didn't Amik sit that one out?

    Trendsetter, that was before opting out of bowls was quite as normalized.



    But I agree with your overall point, any senior hoping to make an NFL roster much less get drafted would be well-served to play. And I really think anyone thinking of portaling "up" into a higher NIL deal or to be on tv more often might make themselves some money by playing well. Probably not the case for anyone who was "encouraged" to shop around or who is likely headed towards an FCS team.

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    Re: Marshall withdraws from Indy

    Quote Originally Posted by BCSDAWG View Post
    It'd be nice if Tech would provide some information about who's coaching and who's left to play. But Tech isn't very good at communication.
    FYI. It was announced today that Coach Cumbie is having a Press Conference tomorrow.

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