Immigration

[buck_dawg_gold]

Why would you "much rather see a tax imposed on those companies who use immigrant workers"......?

An IMMIGRANT WORKER is person from a foreign land who has LEGALLY entered our country (as virtually all of our ancestors once did) in the hope of becoming part of what was once referred to as "the American dream.

In your post #97 on this thread......
YOU IMPLY (in no uncertain terms) YOUR SYMPATHY for the plight of the millions of individuals who have disregarded AMERICAN LAW, and CRIMINALLY crossed America's borders for a myriad of personal reasons.

If it is YOUR personal opinion that these individuals should somehow have the RIGHT TO DO SO......
And/or that American border/immigration LAW should DENY NO FOREIGN FELLOW free access to what remains of OUR land between OUR shining seas......
That's YOUR OPINION as an American (I presume), and I support YOUR AMERICAN RIGHT to speak YOUR mind freely in any American forum.

But I do have a very simple question for YOU......
If it was YOUR intent to support the cause(s) of the MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS who have entered America ILLEGALLY......
WHY in YOUR 2 subsequent posts on this thread......
Did YOU shift the focus of YOUR rhetoric, and opt to REFER ONLY to "IMMIGRATION" and to "IMMIGRANTS"?

Is it possible that YOU do not UNDERSTAND the DISTINCT DIFFERENCE between a LEGAL IMMIGRANT who has complied with America's IMMIGRATION LAWS......
As opposed to ANYONE who prefers to IGNORE ANY AMERICAN LAW that requires them to act in the same responsible manner as any other LEGAL IMMIGRANT?

If YOU wish to champion the charge of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION......
Please feel FREE to "keyboard" any idea/ideal that foams your beer.

But if it is YOUR INTENT to somehow try to CONFUSE the reality of ILLEGAL opportunism with the LEGAL reality of honest immigration......
BE AWARE......
When YOU post on this baord......
YOUR missives are not being read by either children or fools.

BTW......
I have chided YOU purposely with specific intent.
Are YOU up to the task? :icon_wink:
We shall see!

Think about it.
I'm outta here until Wednesday night.

How did your family get here? Where they americans? If someone came here illegally and I use the term illegally very loosely....Finds work and is not a menace to society why not give him or her the right to be a citizen. I see nothing wrong with it you do... We will always disagree..... What do's did your family pay to come here? Did you have to pay fees?

[Spinoza]

I did not read your whole post, but i choose to tax the business because they are documented and they are the ones aiding the influx of immigrants coming accross the border.

It's Wednesday......
And I have returned to our exchange as promised.

I must admit that I honestly do not understand how you approach your message board mechanics. You previously mentioned that you had not read this thread before offering your initial thoughts on this topic ...... And now you opt to respond to my comments by stating that you have not bothered to read my "whole post".

When you participate in a conversation...... Do you routinely LISTEN, only in some partial fashion?
When you view a painting...... Do you judge it/enjoy it through only some selected quadrant of the artist's total effort?
When you enjoy the scent of fragile flower...... Do you ever pause to consider the common dirt that has nourished such beauty?

But back to the only kindling you have opted to hack at in public.
Your logic has lost what remains of my little grey cells atop a seemingly treeless plateau.

If YOU philosophically embrace unbridled ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION across every possible American border...... Why in hell would YOU prefer to penalize ANYONE "aiding the influx"?

Two very simple questions......
1)Do you understand the distinct differences between LEGAL IMMIGRANTS and ILLEGAL ALIENS?
2) Do you believe that ILLEGAL ALIENS have ANY "RIGHT" to enter America ILLEGALLY, and not be held PERSONALLY/LEGALLY accoutable for this criminal behavior?

[Spinoza]

How did your family get here? Where they americans? If someone came here illegally and I use the term illegally very loosely....Finds work and is not a menace to society why not give him or her the right to be a citizen. I see nothing wrong with it you do... We will always disagree..... What do's did your family pay to come here? Did you have to pay fees?

And just suppose......
That even a tiny fraction of YOUR "SOMEONE" smoke......
From Asia and Africa and South America and Central America and Canada and Europe and the Middle East and Australia, should opt for any reason to move to America through YOUR open border largesse......
AND "Finds work and is not a menace to society"!!!!!

WHAT THEN for YOU?

I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH IT"...... FOR ME!
I could lose much more than half of everything I have tomorrow...... And still have more than I could ever possiblly need to enjoy twice the number of years I might reasonably expect to concern myself with in this life on our tiny planet.

But when I am comfortably dead......
And YOU are finally old enough to be elected president......
WHAT THEN for YOU?

Precisely how thin a slice of any remaining American Pie are you presently hoping to slice for YOUR future, and the future of all whom YOU hold near and dear?

[Spinoza]

It's Wednesday......
And I have returned to our exchange as promised.

I must admit that I honestly do not understand how you approach your message board mechanics. You previously mentioned that you had not read this thread before offering your initial thoughts on this topic ...... And now you opt to respond to my comments by stating that you have not bothered to read my "whole post".

When you participate in a conversation...... Do you routinely LISTEN, only in some partial fashion?
When you view a painting...... Do you judge it/enjoy it through only some selected quadrant of the artist's total effort?
When you enjoy the scent of fragile flower...... Do you ever pause to consider the common dirt that has nourished such beauty?

But back to the only kindling you have opted to hack at in public.
Your logic has lost what remains of my little grey cells atop a seemingly treeless plateau.

If YOU philosophically embrace unbridled ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION across every possible American border...... Why in hell would YOU prefer to penalize ANYONE "aiding the influx"?

Two very simple questions......
1)Do you understand the distinct differences between LEGAL IMMIGRANTS and ILLEGAL ALIENS?
2) Do you believe that ILLEGAL ALIENS have ANY "RIGHT" to enter America ILLEGALLY, and not be held PERSONALLY/LEGALLY accoutable for this criminal behavior?

Perhaps buck_dawg_gold has become occupied elsewhere......
But I am beginning to suspect that he has no intention of answering either of my very simple questions.

[Spinoza]

And just suppose......
That even a tiny fraction of YOUR "SOMEONE" smoke......
From Asia and Africa and South America and Central America and Canada and Europe and the Middle East and Australia, should opt for any reason to move to America through YOUR open border largesse......
AND "Finds work and is not a menace to society"!!!!!

WHAT THEN for YOU?

I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH IT"...... FOR ME!
I could lose much more than half of everything I have tomorrow...... And still have more than I could ever possiblly need to enjoy twice the number of years I might reasonably expect to concern myself with in this life on our tiny planet.

But when I am comfortably dead......
And YOU are finally old enough to be elected president......
WHAT THEN for YOU?

Precisely how thin a slice of any remaining American Pie are you presently hoping to slice for YOUR future, and the future of all whom YOU hold near and dear?

Nor may we ever know......
How thin a slice of AMERICAN PIE might sate buck_dawg_gold's seemingly contradictory appetite(s).

C'est la vie.

[LT]

You left out the introduction to your little short story - the part about your murdering and driving out the indigenous peoples of the Americas and then forcefully bringing in millions of African immigrants to toil as your slaves before you you set a bird feeder out on "your" back porch.

Yes this applies.

Subject: Bird Poop




> I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back porch and filled it with seed.
> What a beauty of a bird feeder it is as I filled it lovingly with seed.
> Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the continuous
> flow of free and easily accessible food.
>
> But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the patio, above
> the table, and next to the barbecue.
>
> Then came the poop. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the chairs, the
> table...everywhere!
>
> Then some of the birds turned mean. They would dive bomb me and try to peck
> me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket.
>
> And other birds were boisterous and loud. They sat on the feeder and
> squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I
> fill it when it got low on food.
>
> After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore. So I took
> down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone. I cleaned up
> their mess and took down the many nests they had built all over the patio.
>
> Soon, the back yard was like it used to be...quiet, serene and no one
> demanding their rights to a free meal.
>
> Now let's see..... our government gives out free food, subsidized housing,
> free medical care, and free education and allows anyone born here to be an
> automatic citizen.
>
> Then the illegals came by the tens of thousands.
> Suddenly our taxes went up to pay for free services; small apartments are
> housing 5 families; you have to wait 6 hours to be seen by an emergency room
> doctor; your child's 2nd grade class is behind other schools because over
> half the class doesn't speak English.
>
> Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to 'press one' to hear my
> bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags other than 'Old Glory'
> are squawking and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free
> liberties.
>
> IMHO, maybe it's time for the government to take down the
> bird feeder. If not, continue cleaning up the
> poop!
>
>

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Fix Ps3

[Guisslapp]

Wow, I didn't realize that Tyler was the one that killed the natives and imported slaves.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

Obama and his ilk are continuing to try and steal the election in November and destroy this country!!!



Big Sis To Grant Illegal Aliens 'Unlawful Presence Waivers'...

'Implement Stealth Amnesty'...

[JuBru]

Interesting... the whole site is down.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

Obama and his ilk are continuing to try and steal the election in November and destroy this country!!!



Big Sis To Grant Illegal Aliens 'Unlawful Presence Waivers'...

'Implement Stealth Amnesty'...

Interesting... the whole site is down.

Very interesting indeed. I actually noticed that on a number of unfavorable articles toward Hussein Obama today.
.
Side note: I wish you would link your response to the post you are referring too.

[ITdrummer]

Site's back up for me.

[ITdrummer]

DHS To Grant Illegal Aliens “Unlawful Presence Waivers”

In its quest to implement stealth amnesty, the Obama Administration is working behind the scenes to halt the deportation of certain illegal immigrants by granting them “unlawful presence waivers.”
The new measure would apply to illegal aliens who are relatives of American citizens. Here is how it would work, according to a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announcement posted in today’s Federal Register, the daily journal of the U.S. government; the agency will grant “unlawful presence waivers” to illegal aliens who can prove they have a relative that’s a U.S. citizen.
Currently such aliens must return to their native country and request a waiver of inadmissibility in an existing overseas immigrant visa process. In other words, they must enter the U.S. legally as thousands of foreigners do on a yearly basis. Besides the obvious security issues, changing this would be like rewarding bad behavior in a child. It doesn’t make sense.
But the system often causes U.S. citizens to be separated for extended periods from their immediate relatives,” according to the DHS. The proposed changes, first announced in January, will significantly reduce the length of time U.S. citizens are separated from their loved ones while required to remain outside the United States during the current visa processing system.
The administration also claims that relaxing the rule will also “create efficiencies for both the U.S. government and most applicants.” How exactly is not listed in the Federal Register announcement, which gives the public 60 days to comment. That’s only a formality since the DHS has indicated that the change is pretty much a done deal.
This appears to be part of the Obama Administration’s bigger plan to blow off Congress by using its executive powers to grant illegal immigrants backdoor amnesty. The plan has been in the works for years and in 2010 Texas’s largest newspaper published an exposé about a then-secret DHS initiative that systematically cancelled pending deportations. The remarkable program stunned the legal profession and baffled immigration attorneys who said the government bounced their clients’ deportation even when expulsion was virtually guaranteed.
In late 2011 a mainstream newspaper obtained internal Homeland Security documents outlining “sweeping changes” in immigration enforcement that halt the deportation of illegal aliens with no criminal records. This also includes a nationwide “training program” to assure that enforcement agents and prosecuting attorneys don’t remove illegal immigrants who haven’t been convicted of crimes.
Judicial Watch has been a front runner in investigating the Obama Administration’s stealth amnesty program by pursuing DHS records concerning “deferred action” or “parole” to suspend removal proceedings against a particular group of individuals. Last spring JW sued DHS to obtain information because the agency ignored a federal public records request that dates back to July 2010.

[FishingBack]

Dick Morris predicted this back in 08. Obama will use amnesty to get more votes and win in 2012 when he wouldn't have otherwise.

[dawg80]

Bush league! Using illegal aliens for votes? Come on! the Big E got elected and re-elected many times with dead people voting....each multiple times. The dead don't mind spending the day voting....and voting...and voting.

Vote early....vote often.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

To make way for the Obama hoards of illegal alien voters?

National Guard withdrawing 900 troops from U.S.-Mexico border...