Tech Police

[Soonerdawg]

Honest question, does West's Law apply to Tech's parking regulations?

He quoted a Louisiana Revised Statute. Skill is really the one to ask whether it applies. I'm going to give Skill a plug. In my opinion, he is one of the best criminal defense lawyers around here. I'm a complex fact civil lawyer.

[TulsaPup]

Again, do you speed? Yes. Are you a police officer? Yes. Do you give yourself a ticket everytime you speed? No.

Every time you speed do you go to the police department and ask for a ticket? Police Officers are not above the law, even in their cruiser. They can be pulled over and ticketed on duty while in uniform, and it does happen. Your argument is similar to the way some people react when pulled over; "that guy was going faster than me, why didn't you pull him over?" The fact that someone else is also breaking the law doesn't make yours ok.

Officers tend to give certain people breaks (doctors, nurses, firefighters, military, other officers) on "minor" offenses. Regular, everyday people are sometimes included in these breaks if they're not idiots, more people talk their way into a ticket than out of one.

Getting back to Juice's situation; It seems the officer was correct. He was parked and not loading his vehicle, so according to that statute listed earlier, he is guilty of parking in a handicap space. I would not have handled it the same way, but the officer wasn't wrong. It seems to be a case like in the Big Lebowski, "You're not wrong Walter, you're just a dick"

[GatorDawg]

Every time you speed do you go to the police department and ask for a ticket? Police Officers are not above the law, even in their cruiser. They can be pulled over and ticketed on duty while in uniform, and it does happen. Your argument is similar to the way some people react when pulled over; "that guy was going faster than me, why didn't you pull him over?" The fact that someone else is also breaking the law doesn't make yours ok.

Officers tend to give certain people breaks (doctors, nurses, firefighters, military, other officers) on "minor" offenses. Regular, everyday people are sometimes included in these breaks if they're not idiots, more people talk their way into a ticket than out of one.

Getting back to Juice's situation; It seems the officer was correct. He was parked and not loading his vehicle, so according to that statute listed earlier, he is guilty of parking in a handicap space. I would not have handled it the same way, but the officer wasn't wrong. It seems to be a case like in the Big Lebowski, "You're not wrong Walter, you're just a dick"

Funny story. I saw 2 Ruston PD cars going close to 50 down Alabama the other night.

As far as my case, if they want to give me a ticket that is fine. My problem lies in everything around it. It is not written down, not defined, randomly enforced. Not to mention that it took a month and a half (and 16 pages on this thread) to even have them give me any kind of clarification in the parking rules. They have tried to send me in just about every direction just to get me to drop it and pay the ticket instead of trying to settle the issue (which of course why should they since they make money off this).

[Guisslapp]

Technically, "West" is just the name of the publisher. But in Louisiana, you are correct to point out that Judges and Prosecutors use these statutes. So do the defense attorneys. Does the University adopt the Louisiana Statutes for parking offenses that fall under the University's exclusive jurisdiction? Furthermore, it seems like Juice can get out of this one by saying he was unloading. What was the total time you were in the spot, Juice?

Here's a tidbit of information:

West's Louisiana Statutory Criminal Law and Proceedure 2008 defines parking as:

"Park" or "Parking" means the standing of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, otherwise than temporarily for the purpose of and while actually engaged in loading or unloading merchandise or passengers.

By the definition of the law, Juice was in violation. There was nobody present at the vehicle other than him, therefore he was not actually engaged in the loading or unloading of passengers. Therefore he was PARKED. (see above definition)

West's Law is the book that Judges and Prosecutors use daily in court for trials.

[Dirtydawg]

Every time you speed do you go to the police department and ask for a ticket? Police Officers are not above the law, even in their cruiser. They can be pulled over and ticketed on duty while in uniform, and it does happen. Your argument is similar to the way some people react when pulled over; "that guy was going faster than me, why didn't you pull him over?" The fact that someone else is also breaking the law doesn't make yours ok.

Officers tend to give certain people breaks (doctors, nurses, firefighters, military, other officers) on "minor" offenses. Regular, everyday people are sometimes included in these breaks if they're not idiots, more people talk their way into a ticket than out of one.

Getting back to Juice's situation; It seems the officer was correct. He was parked and not loading his vehicle, so according to that statute listed earlier, he is guilty of parking in a handicap space. I would not have handled it the same way, but the officer wasn't wrong. It seems to be a case like in the Big Lebowski, "You're not wrong Walter, you're just a dick"

He was unloading.

[TulsaPup]

He was unloading.

I don't think waiting for your girlfriend to run into the apartment and back counts as loading, or am I wrong?

[Guisslapp]

I don't think waiting for your girlfriend to run into the apartment and back counts as loading, or am I wrong?

Why couldn't it be considered unloading and loading?

[TulsaPup]

Why couldn't it be considered unloading and loading?

I think of loading as putting something in your car, like groceries, boxes, etc that you can't carry to a further parking space. People that can walk don't need to be loaded into a car. But that's just my opinion

[CChandler]

Don't suck up just because you want to be a police officer, bruh.

DF8675309 is being a total dick about this. No wonder no one likes him.

'No sweetie, let me get out out of RUNNING VEHICLE to go upstairs and help you with this stuff. That way, I'm loading. My car will get stolen, but I'm loading.'

Yeah, THAT'S the proper protocol.

[TulsaPup]

Don't suck up just because you want to be a police officer, bruh.

DF8675309 is being a total dick about this. No wonder no one likes him.

Why would I suck up to a Tech cop? I respect Tech PD because they're police officers, but I have nothing to gain by sucking up to any of them. I'm giving my opinion and don't really care who agrees or disagrees with it. Read my other posts on this thread, I said the guy that gave the ticket was a dick, but not wrong from what I know of the situation and law. If I felt he was wrong I would have said so, cops make mistakes too.

[TulsaPup]

'No sweetie, let me get out out of RUNNING VEHICLE to go upstairs and help you with this stuff. That way, I'm loading. My car will get stolen, but I'm loading.'

Yeah, THAT'S the proper protocol.

He said his girlfriend ran up to the apartment real quick, unless I missed something I don't recall anything being carried or loaded. Sounds to me she ran upstairs to get something like keys, money, makeup, etc. not a TV or something that requires help or can't be carried to a regular space.

[CChandler]

He said his girlfriend ran up to the apartment real quick, unless I missed something I don't recall anything being carried or loaded. Sounds to me she ran upstairs to get something like keys, money, makeup, etc. not a TV or something that requires help or can't be carried to a regular space.

Well, to play DawgFan18005518900 here for a minute, I'm going this route:

If she went to get her keys, and brought them back into the car with her, she was loading the car.

If we're gonna be vague about 'park' we can damn sure be vague about 'load'.

[DocMarvin362]

Every time you speed do you go to the police department and ask for a ticket? Police Officers are not above the law, even in their cruiser. They can be pulled over and ticketed on duty while in uniform, and it does happen. Your argument is similar to the way some people react when pulled over; "that guy was going faster than me, why didn't you pull him over?" The fact that someone else is also breaking the law doesn't make yours ok.

Officers tend to give certain people breaks (doctors, nurses, firefighters, military, other officers) on "minor" offenses. Regular, everyday people are sometimes included in these breaks if they're not idiots, more people talk their way into a ticket than out of one.

Several Officers here agree with your assessment completely. They ALL (but 1) say that they would have just asked him to move now and just park in the road behind other cars.

Sometimes, Police get bored.... and when Police get bored, civilians pay. Just the way of life.


Got into a good "war story" when we were talking about this situation:
A State Trooper here gave an officer a ticket in her personal car when he was on his way to work. Later in the day, the officer saw the same State Trooper going about 15 over on I-20, the SPD officer pulled over the State Trooper in his patrol car and issued him a ticket as well. Both supervisor's met and decided to dismiss both tickets... the SPD guy made his point.

[AustinDawg]

the SPD guy made his point.

Which was?

[Dirtydawg]

He said his girlfriend ran up to the apartment real quick, unless I missed something I don't recall anything being carried or loaded. Sounds to me she ran upstairs to get something like keys, money, makeup, etc. not a TV or something that requires help or can't be carried to a regular space.

Actually, if I remember correctly she was unloading something from the car to her apartment hence the unloading.