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[Aussierules1985]

Australian bushfire out of control

http://therebeller.blogspot.com/2009/02/australia.html

This is simply the result of Eucalyptus Oil being loaded on trees...
In this country you can start a fire below a tree and not have any repercussions, but there you simply have some heat (which is generally abundant in a desert), a little fuel (the oil), and a beer bottle with a kid playing near the trees and nuff said.

These fires happen all the time. Even without human intervention.

[saltydawg]

This is simply the result of Eucalyptus Oil being loaded on trees...
In this country you can start a fire below a tree and not have any repercussions, but there you simply have some heat (which is generally abundant in a desert), a little fuel (the oil), and a beer bottle with a kid playing near the trees and nuff said.

These fires happen all the time. Even without human intervention.

Sure, bush fires have been going on for a long time, but the point is that Victoria is in the middle of a record drought AND had record-breaking high temperatures. Marysville was totally destroyed. At the same time, Queensland is having record floods. Definitely not business as usual.

Melbourne is being forced to build a huge desalinization plant to supply the city with fresh water. It's called climate change.

[Guisslapp]

Increased temperatures = increased rainfall. Read about it.

[saltydawg]

Increased temperatures = increased rainfall. Read about it.

Increased temperatures = changes in rainfall distribution. Read about it.

[saltydawg]

Interesting article in Time magazine about the Victoria brush fires.......and the role of global warming.

http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...,00.html?imw=Y

"Although the wildfires caught so many victims by surprise last weekend, there has been no shortage of distant early-warning signs. The 11th chapter of the second working group of the 2007 Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, for example, warned that fires in Australia were "virtually certain to increase in intensity and frequency" because of steadily warming temperatures over the next several decades. Research published in 2007 by the Australian government's own Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization reported that by 2020, there could be up to 65% more "extreme" fire-danger days compared with 1990, and that by 2050, under the most severe warming scenarios, there could be a 300% increase in such days. "[The fires] are a sobering reminder of the need for this nation and the whole world to act and put at a priority the need to tackle climate change," Australian Green Party leader Bob Brown told the Sky News."

[Aussierules1985]

Interesting article in Time magazine about the Victoria brush fires.......and the role of global warming.

http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...,00.html?imw=Y

"Although the wildfires caught so many victims by surprise last weekend, there has been no shortage of distant early-warning signs. The 11th chapter of the second working group of the 2007 Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, for example, warned that fires in Australia were "virtually certain to increase in intensity and frequency" because of steadily warming temperatures over the next several decades. Research published in 2007 by the Australian government's own Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization reported that by 2020, there could be up to 65% more "extreme" fire-danger days compared with 1990, and that by 2050, under the most severe warming scenarios, there could be a 300% increase in such days. "[The fires] are a sobering reminder of the need for this nation and the whole world to act and put at a priority the need to tackle climate change," Australian Green Party leader Bob Brown told the Sky News."

Green Party leader quotations. Enough said. Then again i question Time magazine's objectivity anyway, politics aside, the last time the Green Party was helping the Australian government this much the dollar went from about 1AUD:1.36 USD to about half that. Don't think most countries can afford that economic plan.

[saltydawg]

Green Party leader quotations. Enough said. Then again i question Time magazine's objectivity anyway, politics aside, the last time the Green Party was helping the Australian government this much the dollar went from about 1AUD:1.36 USD to about half that. Don't think most countries can afford that economic plan.

"Although the wildfires caught so many victims by surprise last weekend, there has been no shortage of distant early-warning signs. The 11th chapter of the second working group of the 2007 Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, for example, warned that fires in Australia were "virtually certain to increase in intensity and frequency" because of steadily warming temperatures over the next several decades. Research published in 2007 by the Australian government's own Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization reported that by 2020, there could be up to 65% more "extreme" fire-danger days compared with 1990, and that by 2050, under the most severe warming scenarios, there could be a 300% increase in such days."

[JuBru]

"Although the wildfires caught so many victims by surprise last weekend, there has been no shortage of distant early-warning signs. The 11th chapter of the second working group of the 2007 Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, for example, warned that fires in Australia were "virtually certain to increase in intensity and frequency" because of steadily warming temperatures over the next several decades. Research published in 2007 by the Australian government's own Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization reported that by 2020, there could be up to 65% more "extreme" fire-danger days compared with 1990, and that by 2050, under the most severe warming scenarios, there could be a 300% increase in such days."

I'm confused as to why this would be news or anything really...

Any person that has intelligence can come with the theory that because of warmer temperatures, that more intense fires are likely to happen. It is kind of a given. Warmer temperatures + drier air/vegetaion/etc = fire... pretty simple.

But I don't see why/how this prove man-made global warming?


Is it really, not at all possible to think, that the Earth is warming naturally? That yes, there's climate change, but climate change is SUPPOSED to happen? Or have everything we taught and learned for the last 100 years completely wrong?

[arkansasbob]

I'm confused as to why this would be news or anything really...

Any person that has intelligence can come with the theory that because of warmer temperatures, that more intense fires are likely to happen. It is kind of a given. Warmer temperatures + drier air/vegetaion/etc = fire... pretty simple.

But I don't see why/how this prove man-made global warming?


Is it really, not at all possible to think, that the Earth is warming naturally? That yes, there's climate change, but climate change is SUPPOSED to happen? Or have everything we taught and learned for the last 100 years completely wrong?

only man-made carbon dioxide causes wildfires. read about it.

[saltydawg]

only man-made carbon dioxide causes wildfires. read about it.

Certainly your humor is better than that.

[saltydawg]

I'm confused as to why this would be news or anything really...

Any person that has intelligence can come with the theory that because of warmer temperatures, that more intense fires are likely to happen. It is kind of a given. Warmer temperatures + drier air/vegetaion/etc = fire... pretty simple.

But I don't see why/how this prove man-made global warming?


Is it really, not at all possible to think, that the Earth is warming naturally? That yes, there's climate change, but climate change is SUPPOSED to happen? Or have everything we taught and learned for the last 100 years completely wrong?

Right, it doesn't prove AGW but it is a symptom of increasing temperatures.

The Earth is not warming naturally because (1) the orbit and tilt of the Earth is going toward cooling rather than warming, (2) the level of greenhouse gases is going up and (3) it is totally established that the increasing levels of CO2 in the atmosphere is caused by burning fossil fuels.

[Guisslapp]

Salty, you are over-reacting again. You are acting like a woman.

[saltydawg]

Salty, you are over-reacting again. You are acting like a woman.

No, you have me confused with Tyler.

[saltydawg]

Guiss, I know that you are a bird lover so here is something for you.

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/feb2...9-02-10-01.asp

Driven by a warming climate, North American birds are moving northward and inland, according to new analyses by scientists with the National Audubon Society of 40 years of observations by birdwatchers.

Sophisticated computerized analysis of data gathered during Audubon's Christmas Bird Counts since 1968 show that 58 percent of the 305 widespread species that winter on the continent have shifted north, some by hundreds of miles.
"Experts predict that global warming will mean dire consequences, even extinction, for many bird species, and this analysis suggests that that the process leading down that path is already well underway," warned Audubon President John Flicker during a conference call with reporters today. "We're witnessing an uncontrolled experiment on the birds and the world we share with them."
"Too many people who hear about melting glaciers, polar bears, and changing weather conclude that the impacts of global warming are happening far in the future and far from home. Now they can witness the impact global warming is having with the birds they see or don't see right outside their doors," said Flicker.

[arkansasbob]

Certainly your humor is better than that.

that's as good as it gets.