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    Re: Why Jenkins should continue to start

    Haha when I read that post, that was the first thing I thought of.

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    Re: Why Jenkins should continue to start

    Quote Originally Posted by zharkins View Post
    First, a statistical comparison versus last year...

    ----------------Comp----Att-----Yards---TD---INT---Comp %---Yds/Att---Effic
    Bennett--------66------167-----873------2-----6-----39.5%-------5.2-------80.2
    Jenkins 08-----92------174----1155-----7-----3-----52.9%-------6.6------118.5
    Jenkins 09-----78------131-----888------3-----3-----59.5%-------6.8------119.5


    This year Ross has a much better completion percentage and a slightly better rating that would be much better if he had a couple more touchdown passes. He also must be making the correct audible an insane amount of times when the coaches go back at watch the film.

    This season is what it is and the goal is really just to get to a bowl. With the upcoming two games being by far the easiest two game stretch of the year, our coaches have to feel like that we can't do anything to screw these games up. They have to figure that an average performance by RJ will be enough to win the next two games and at least give the team a chance to get to 6-6 by winning 2 out of 3 versus Idaho, Fresno, and San Jose. It looks like Idaho, Boise State, and Nevada will all be bowl eligible, while Fresno has a 50/50 shot. Since the WAC has 3 automatic bowl tie ins, if Boise State makes it to a BCS bowl, we could get an automatic bid at 6-6 if Fresno comes up short of 6 wins. Also, I'm not sure about the WAC's contingency agreement with the Poinsettia bowl, but I guess they could theoretically get the second place WAC team if Boise made the BCS giving the WAC 5 bowl tie ins this season.

    The absolute worst thing they can do is put in a new QB with first game jitters against Utah State. Our team is not a come from behind team. We need to be efficient from the very first snap. Dooley has to be afraid that any new QB would probably throw a couple of interceptions and fumble a snap (as is par for the course for a first start), costing us a very winnable game. If we lose to Utah State, all bowl hopes are pretty much gone, and Dooley can't take the chance of messing it up. Now, if we lose at homecoming and a bowl looks like it is out of the picture, then all bets are off and I wouldn't be suprised if a couple of backups get some playing time against Utah State and Idaho. But for now, our best shot is for Ross to keep throwing for 178 yards per game and rely on the ground game and turnovers to win these upcoming games.
    I hope you realize that you just posted the fact that our QB has thrown for a GRAND TOTAL of only 888 yds in 5 games in 2009. And probably more than a third of that yardage came against Nicholls St, a drastically undermanned team.

    Also, only 3 passing TD's vs 3 INT's is downright ABSURD!

    Those are really pathetic statistics. I don't see how you are helping Ross's cause. This REALLY sucks.


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    Re: Why Jenkins should continue to start

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    I hope you realize that you just posted the fact that our QB has thrown for a GRAND TOTAL of only 888 yds in 5 games in 2009. And probably more than a third of that yardage came against Nicholls St, a drastically undermanned team.

    Also, only 3 passing TD's vs 3 INT's is downright ABSURD!

    Those are really pathetic statistics. I don't see how you are helping Ross's cause. This REALLY sucks.


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    Yea. Seriously. How can a QB not be throwing for over 1000 yards by now? This guy really sucks too.

    http://espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=183484

    Imagine what his numbers would be like without that sorry Troy he passed all over for 4 TDs.

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    Re: Why Jenkins should continue to start

    Quote Originally Posted by Juice752 View Post
    Yea. Seriously. How can a QB not be throwing for over 1000 yards by now? This guy really sucks too.

    http://espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=183484

    Imagine what his numbers would be like without that sorry Troy he passed all over for 4 TDs.
    And Tebow has thrown for SEVEN (7) TD's vs 2 INT's. You're still burying your own case. :icon_wink:


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    Re: Why Jenkins should continue to start

    Quote Originally Posted by Juice752 View Post
    Yea. Seriously. How can a QB not be throwing for over 1000 yards by now? This guy really sucks too.

    http://espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=183484

    Imagine what his numbers would be like without that sorry Troy he passed all over for 4 TDs.
    Dude. Its Tim Tebow. Ross is Ross.

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    Re: Why Jenkins should continue to start

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    And Tebow has thrown for SEVEN (7) TD's vs 2 INT's. You're still burying your own case. :icon_wink:


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    4 against Troy. You can't blame Ross for drops or our running game being a better scoring threat.

    And your entire point was 800 yards in 5 games is terrible. TDs is another point. Keep in mind Florida is also considered one of the best offenses in the country.

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    Re: Why Jenkins should continue to start

    Quote Originally Posted by CChandler View Post
    Dude. Its Tim Tebow. Ross is Ross.
    I know. Just proving HD that on a running team, 800 yards isn't as bad as he thinks.

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    Re: Why Jenkins should continue to start

    Quote Originally Posted by CChandler View Post
    Dude. Its Tim Tebow. Ross is Ross.
    Only Juice would try to compare Ross Jenkins' year favorably to Tim Tebow's. However, you kinda have to admire his gumption. That boy has got nothing but red & blue glasses on....


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    Re: Why Jenkins should continue to start

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Only Juice would try to compare Ross Jenkins' year favorably to Tim Tebow's. However, you kinda have to admire his gumption. That boy has got nothing but red & blue glasses on....


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    And HD still doesn't get it. You're argument is 800 yards through 5 games is terrible. Tebow doesn't even have 800 yards through 5 games. Then again it isn't like it matters because you will say our passing game sucks as long as we aren't throwing for 400 yards a game...with a QB from Texas.

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    Re: Why Jenkins should continue to start

    Quote Originally Posted by Juice752 View Post
    And HD still doesn't get it. You're argument is 800 yards through 5 games is terrible. Tebow doesn't even have 800 yards through 5 games. Then again it isn't like it matters because you will say our passing game sucks as long as we aren't throwing for 400 yards a game...with a QB from Texas.
    No Juice, your argument still doesn't work.

    1) TeBow is on the # 1 ranked team in the nation, and Jenkins is not.
    2) TeBow is surrounded by world class talent, while Jenkins is NOT.
    3) TeBow, a Heisman Trophy winner, is a genuine running threat, while Jenkins is NOT.
    4) Tebow is backed by a stable of RB's and a depth chart that Jenkins can only dream about.

    Like it or not, LA Tech does not have the talent and the depth that Florida has, so it is ludicrous to think we can depend soley on our running game to win football games. Other than against the occassional weak defenses (e.g., Hawaii), that will never happen.

    Like it or not, it is absolutely imperative that we be successful throwing the football. It was proven to us last year (when we had a very anemic and limited offense), and it's certainly being DRILLED into our thick heads again THIS year. If you want to win, we've GOT to throw the ball!! Please GET THE MESSSAGE!


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    Re: Why Jenkins should continue to start

    Most telling stat: Tebow wins, Jenkins doesn't. The only reason most overlooked Jenkins' lack of passing skills last year is bc we were winning. Not so much this year.

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    Re: Why Jenkins should continue to start

    was sitting in malone stadium last night watching the game. was talking to one of the guys off of the ulm message board. In the middle of it he ask, "hey man, WHATS the deal with your QB". I had to laugh. We might be a bunch of squirrels but those outside the squirrel nest are thinking the same way.


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    Re: Why Jenkins should continue to start

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    No Juice, your argument still doesn't work.

    1) TeBow is on the # 1 ranked team in the nation, and Jenkins is not.
    2) TeBow is surrounded by world class talent, while Jenkins is NOT.
    3) TeBow, a Heisman Trophy winner, is a genuine running threat, while Jenkins is NOT.
    4) Tebow is backed by a stable of RB's and a depth chart that Jenkins can only dream about.

    Like it or not, LA Tech does not have the talent and the depth that Florida has, so it is ludicrous to think we can depend soley on our running game to win football games. Other than against the occassional weak defenses (e.g., Hawaii), that will never happen.

    Like it or not, it is absolutely imperative that we be successful throwing the football. It was proven to us last year (when we had a very anemic and limited offense), and it's certainly being DRILLED into our thick heads again THIS year. If you want to win, we've GOT to throw the ball!! Please GET THE MESSSAGE!


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    1- #1 running team or not, we are a primarily running team. Running teams run the ball a lot more than they throw. For some reason I feel I still have to break this down to you.

    2- If Tebow is sourrounded by world class talent, shouldn't that help his passing (and his TD to INT ratio) Ross has had one or two interceptions on the WR. Also had a few dropped TDs. Tebow has better protection as well.

    3- I don't know why people say he is a running threat. He ain't exactly a Mike Vick. Sure he is tough and fights for tough yards but that doesn't mean he is a good running threat. He's such a good running threat he projects to an NFL fullback. That should tell you more about his running style than anything else.

    4- We have good runningbacks too. I don't see how that has anything to do with anything.

    I am not happy with how Ross is throwing the ball but I am not going to pretend his is a failure because he hasn't hit 1000 yards plus through 5 games. That is my entire point. But yet you somehow always seem to never get anything that simple.

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    Re: Why Jenkins should continue to start

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    No Juice, your argument still doesn't work.

    1) TeBow is on the # 1 ranked team in the nation, and Jenkins is not.
    2) TeBow is surrounded by world class talent, while Jenkins is NOT.
    3) TeBow, a Heisman Trophy winner, is a genuine running threat, while Jenkins is NOT.
    4) Tebow is backed by a stable of RB's and a depth chart that Jenkins can only dream about.

    Like it or not, LA Tech does not have the talent and the depth that Florida has, so it is ludicrous to think we can depend soley on our running game to win football games. Other than against the occassional weak defenses (e.g., Hawaii), that will never happen.

    Like it or not, it is absolutely imperative that we be successful throwing the football. It was proven to us last year (when we had a very anemic and limited offense), and it's certainly being DRILLED into our thick heads again THIS year. If you want to win, we've GOT to throw the ball!! Please GET THE MESSSAGE!


    HD

    I think you forgot one thing, Tebow is 5-0. We are not. If we were we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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    Re: Why Jenkins should continue to start

    Quote Originally Posted by GonzoDawg View Post
    I think you forgot one thing, Tebow is 5-0. We are not. If we were we wouldn't be having this conversation.
    I think you don't know HD that well. We could go undefeated and win a national championship and he would still complain we aren't throwing for enough yards.

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