He threw the ball THREE times...just for clarity.Originally Posted by TruDawg
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He threw the ball THREE times...just for clarity.
Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle
why not?
At the very least, we should have put someone else in in the 4th at Nevada.......What the hell are we going to do if Jenkins goes down?? We will be so unprepared if that happens.
We can bitch all we want, steel cranium is not budging.
Did you read what Coach Mick posted? You start with a live arm and coach a kid to be a QB. Cameron is the only live arm currently available.
But how much good can come from trying to coach the kid mid season. These are the same things we have come across already. Do we have the talent around our QB to keep us afloat against NMSU, USU, and Idaho while he learns to play. I am afraid we would get our tails handed to us worse if our backup guys aren't ready.
Yea, but on one he looked like he was playing dodge ball, he definitely got the receiver out because he nailed him in the knee... from about 10 feet away. It was a good throw, if he was trying to avoid a catch.
Sorry......but no can do. The Heisman Trophy will go to Barak Obama this year.
HD
Huh? Jenkins has already started 13 games in his Tech career. Just how many starts does he need to finally get "some confidence"?
Over the years I've learned that no matter how bad things get at Tech, there's ALWAYS going to be a small faction of fans (like you) who are simply in denial to the finish. They are deathly afraid of change. Simply put, they would prefer to continue losing than to simply make a personnel change. We saw it with Jack Bicknell's firing. There were people just like you defending JBIII on this board right up to the day he was finally fired.I guess it's an "engineering" personality thing.
HD
Granted, the QB situation this year is a screwed-up mess, which should be lain directly at the feet of DD. But the good that can come from trying to coach the kid mid season is that the team sees the coaches continuing to seek ways to win games rather than seeking ways not to lose them; they see that anyone can and will be replaced for the betterment of the team; and the team may be energized by an effort to shake up what's not working. If the results on the field do not improve because of mistakes by a new QB, at least we lose by inexperience rather than inability and don't think recruits can't see the difference between the two!
Wow.... Bret. You're my boy and all, but.... You've said some pretty silly things over the years, but this is the dumbest point you've ever tried to argue.
With the exception of 1 game, we've been a THROWING TEAM.
Tebow throws 17 times a game, Ross' thrown a little over 26 times a game (statistically)
Tebow's rushed for over 300 yards and 5 TD's, Ross' rushed for 3 yards and 0 TD's.
Taking out both of their D1-AA games, Ross' average QB rating is 60.9, and Tebow's average rating is 102.7
You're not an idiot, so please stop playing one on the internet.
very well said, LFR.
All I am trying to point out with the stats is that he is no worse than Kubik or Champion, but he is certainly no Rattay or McCown (and never will be). It is just that we most likely have Joe Danna, Donald Allen, and Brian Stallworth backing up Jenkins and we love to play "one of these days" with those type of guys.Oh...okay. So, let the record show, YOU and JUICE think everything is FINE with our QB.
HD
I think our QB play is sub par at best...but this isn't the freaking NFL where we could trade Duplessis, Livas, and our #1 pick next year for a good QB. I'm saying I think Ross can do just enough to get us to another bowl and I think any other QB on this roster would take at the very least a few games to get comfortable. At this point in the season, it is too late to make the change if a bowl game is still your goal. I also think that we don't score enough points or beat other teams badly enough to put a backup QB in for a few series and risk turning the ball over and losing the game.
If we lose 2 out of the next 3, it is time to start thinking about next year and Ross will be giving signals from the sideline to finish out his season, but at this point, the odds are much better to stick with Ross.
Why isn't anyone demanding that Dooley bring in the 2nd string offensive line for a few series next week since the first string hasn't been performing well? Maybe they could do better? Of course not. We know the coaches watch them everyday in practice and even if they aren't performing well, they know it will go from bad to worse in a heartbeat if they start putting in backups. Posters just say they should "step it up". But for some reason we want to throw some poor kid out there to get killed at QB who isn't anywhere close to ready.
Our QB position is what it is and Ross gives us the best chance to win at this moment. This is just like when it is 4th and 7 at the 50 yard line and the fans boo because the coach won't go for it. We want to imagine that the 30% chance of making it outweighs the 70% chance of giving the opponent a short field and an almost certain touchdown.
Actually, against 1A teams, Ross' rating is 97.9 and Tebow's rating is 159.8, but still, you are right.
Doc you know I am not saying Ross is anywhere near Tebow. I am just calling out HD on his idiotic statement regarding passing yards. Ross is not performing now but as I have said time and time again, blaming Ross and demanding a QB change will not get us anywhere this season. Ross is good enough to get us to another bowl game this year and I think that is better than anyone else on the team.
Oh and we are a running team. And it didn't help that it took Daniel Porter until the Hawaii game to finally break out of his slump. If we looked like a passing team, that is because we were forced to since Porter wasn't getting the job done and any time you are forced to do something on offense, you are in trouble.
Doc was right. You're probably NOT an idiot, so you really need to quit acting like one on the internet. Only a fool would think Ross is playing well enough to get us to a bowl game this year. The way Ross is performing, we'll be VERY lucky to simply beat the same WAC teams that we beat last year. And right now I'd say that's no slam dunk (with Idaho coming on strong, etc...)
Note on Porter: Porter had a "break out" game against Hawaii because he was playing HAWAII. Never mind the fact that Hawaii has ALWAYS been horrible on rush defense. (I guess you forgot that too!)
HD
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