Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

[HogDawg]

How sad the world of college athletics has become when you would choose mediocrity and great money over championship contention and good money??

AMEN! GREAT Point. I agree with you. Johnny and company aren't considering what Arkansas could be if they were in the Big 12 and once again competing at top levels.

Arkansas will never be more than just another "also ran" in the SEC because kids in Dallas and Texas just don't give a crap about the SEC. That hurts Arkansas' recruiting. Dallas isn't SEC country, and Arkansas has already lost untold millions because they can no longer recruit DFW area athletes effectively (and therefore they can't compete effectively).


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[Woof!]

Arkansas will not leave the SEC even though they could compete and recruit better in the Big 12. This is especially true if Neb., Missouri and probably Colorado leaving the north division. The money is better in the SEC and the TV contract and coverage in general is better as well. And Frank Broyles, who called the SEC shot and still has a ton of stroke at ARK., hasn't passed away yet.

I agree with this.

If Texas moves to the SEC, even more so. The SEC will gain the huge Dallas-Ft. Worth and Houston television markets as well as the fairly large sized Austin market. From a national viewpoint, who wouldn't want to watch a Texas-Florida, Texas-Alabama, Texas-Tennessee, Texas-Georgia, or a Texas-LSU game?

[HogDawg]

I also think Texas or Oklahoma or whoever should seriously consider an offer to join the SEC if presented. Not saying they should take it but I think they should seriously consider it.

That's the ONLY way that Arkansas can stay in the SEC and compete effectively: They have to have the state of Texas and the DFW area turned into "SEC country".

If TX, TX A&M, Okla & OSU joined the SEC, the state of Texas would suddenly become SEC country, and that could give Arkansas recruiting an enormous boost.


Of course, the "power base of the SEC would suddenly shift westward too.....so I'm not so sure the SEC wants to open that can of worms. The SEC has a very good thing going. Do the SEC gods really want to compete against a suddenly stronger Arkansas, as well as Texas, Oklahoma, OSU and Texas A&M? I think not.


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[touchdown123]

That's the ONLY way that Arkansas can stay in the SEC and compete effectively: They have to have the state of Texas and the DFW area turned into "SEC country".

If TX, TX A&M, Okla & OSU joined the SEC, the state of Texas would suddenly become SEC country, and that could give Arkansas recruiting an enormous boost.


Of course, the "power base of the SEC would suddenly shift westward too.....so I'm not so sure the SEC wants to open that can of worms. The SEC has a very good thing going. Do the SEC gods really want to compete against a suddenly stronger Arkansas, as well as Texas, Oklahoma, OSU and Texas A&M? I think not.


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But y'alls reasons are full of contradictions. If Texas is such a big deal (not saying it isn't), then why would Missouri and Nebraska leave in the first place? Also, if arkansas wants to leave the SEC, then why would a Texas school want in only to be an "also ran"? On one hand you say Arkansas is stupid for staying for money, and on the other you say other schools want in for the money.

[PawDawg]

But y'alls reasons are full of contradictions. If Texas is such a big deal (not saying it isn't), then why would Missouri and Nebraska leave in the first place? Also, if arkansas wants to leave the SEC, then why would a Texas school want in only to be an "also ran"? On one hand you say Arkansas is stupid for staying for money, and on the other you say other schools want in for the money.

I don't think Nebraska left for the money. They have always recruited Texas heavily and will continue to do so. I think they are tired of getting their brains beat out in the Big 12, but they can use money and academics as an excuse.

[johnnylightnin]

Nebraska and Mizzou are BOTH tired of what they view as an unfair revenue sharing structure. Nebraska doesn't like being second fiddle (or third...UT, OU, then Nebraska) and in the weak division.

[Soonerdawg]

Nebraska and Mizzou are BOTH tired of what they view as an unfair revenue sharing structure. Nebraska doesn't like being second fiddle (or third...UT, OU, then Nebraska) and in the weak division.

You are exactly right. I will add that Nebraska's fate was doomed when it lost its annual rilvary with OU. Nebraska and Mizzouri are both better off in the Big X.

With that said, that is why I don't see the Big XII south splitting. I think they have a great thing going with Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, OU and OSU. Baylor is only there to make it an even number. They will fill the north with whoever they want, and whoever they ordain will instantly have at least as much success as Missouri had.

I just don't see the Big XII south collapsing at all.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

You are exactly right. I will add that Nebraska's fate was doomed when it lost its annual rilvary with OU. Nebraska and Mizzouri are both better off in the Big X.

With that said, that is why I don't see the Big XII south splitting. I think they have a great thing going with Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, OU and OSU. Baylor is only there to make it an even number. They will fill the north with whoever they want, and whoever they ordain will instantly have at least as much success as Missouri had.

I just don't see the Big XII south collapsing at all.

And if Colorado moves to the PAC as well? Seriously, who does the then BIG 9 then pick up to play in the north division with Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas St? Talk about a sucky division of BCS teams. I think Texas, TA&M and OK would think long and hard about the SEC.

[domangue]

It would almost have to be reorganized as some sort of East-West model rather than North-South. To even things out.

[Champ967]

It would almost have to be reorganized as some sort of East-West model rather than North-South. To even things out.

With Louisiana Tech in the east division?

[Soonerdawg]

It would almost have to be reorganized as some sort of East-West model rather than North-South. To even things out.

But they won't touch the south division no matter what happens.

[Dwayne From Minden]

Could it be that the MWC is hot and wet for Boise because they know TCU is gone back east to the BigXii once Nebraska & Mizzou bolt?

I just don't see the made for Tv 20 being sexy enough to drive the numbers on a new TV deal - especially considering that neither league has their own network like the SEC & Big10 does....

Remember it took both of those leagues 3/4 years to get into this position with their networks - you have to have those independent networks to drive the $$$$ - especially since Disney is already in bed with the two big breasted babes

[johnnylightnin]

Don't think the big twelve has much use for TCU. BYU maybe, but they have no need for another texas team.

[Dwayne From Minden]

Don't think the big twelve has much use for TCU. BYU maybe, but they have no need for another texas team.

They may not - it might be Utah or BYU...

But they are hot and heavy for them for some reason outside of "hopefully" attaining AQ status automatically when all the number crunchers show it will not get them there

[TYLERTECHSAS]

Could it be that the MWC is hot and wet for Boise because they know TCU is gone back east to the BigXii once Nebraska & Mizzou bolt?

I just don't see the made for Tv 20 being sexy enough to drive the numbers on a new TV deal - especially considering that neither league has their own network like the SEC & Big10 does....

Remember it took both of those leagues 3/4 years to get into this position with their networks - you have to have those independent networks to drive the $$$$ - especially since Disney is already in bed with the two big breasted babes

Very possible and a lot of truth in that post.