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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by odysseus View Post
    1) Slightly more money
    2) Better academic fit
    3) Easier competition

    I'm not too sure about the first one, but if I were a Vandy fan I'd be all for going to the Big Ten. I just don't think the Big Ten would be very interested in them, since academics don't bring in big bucks.
    I would think there would be more money in the SEC.

    I agree that I don't think the B10 would be that interested in them.

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Vandy actually does NOT have the lowest athletics budget in the SEC, which is what I would have suspected. I think they are the 2nd or 3rd lowest....I also seem to remember M State was below them.

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    Vandy actually does NOT have the lowest athletics budget in the SEC, which is what I would have suspected. I think they are the 2nd or 3rd lowest....I also seem to remember M State was below them.
    *These numbers are a year old.

    07-08 SEC Athletics Budgets

    $123,769,841 - Alabama
    $106,607,895 - Florida
    $101,806,196 - Tennessee
    $89,311,824 - Auburn
    $85,554,395 - Georgia
    $85,018,205 - LSU
    $71,727,243 - Kentucky
    $66,545,953 - South Carolina
    $66,174,916 - Arkansas
    $45,521,855 - Vanderbilt
    $34,769,709 - Ole Miss
    $30,440,090 - Mississippi State

    07-08 Big Ten Athletics Budgets
    $115,737,022 - Ohio State
    $99,027,105 - Michigan
    $95,118,124 - Wisconsin
    $91,570,233 - Penn State
    $81,515,865 - Iowa
    $81,390,686 - Michigan State
    $68,951,692 - Minnesota
    $67,818,403 - Illinois
    $64,253,784 - Purdue
    $57,155,333 - Indiana
    $41,835,733 - Northwestern

    07-08 Big XII Athletics Budgets
    $120,288,370 - Texas
    $98,874,092 - Oklahoma State
    $92,476,146 - Texas A&M
    $82,976,047 - Kansas
    $77,098,008 - Oklahoma
    $75,492,884 - Nebraska
    $55,566,932 - Missouri
    $52,631,896 - Colorado
    $52,599,785 - Texas Tech
    $49,113,706 - Kansas State
    $44,151,763 - Baylor
    $38,621,346 - Iowa State

    07-08 Big East Athletics Budgets
    $83,352,439 - Notre Dame (non-football)
    $56,540,896 - Louisville
    $55,218,003 - Connecticut
    $54,262,716 - West Virginia
    $52,012,491 - Rutgers
    $44,702,831 - Syracuse
    $39,741,621 - Pittsburgh
    $34,935,813 - South Florida
    $32,281,546 - Cincinnati

    07-08 ACC Athletics Budgets
    $73,458,494 - Florida State
    $67,820,335 - Duke
    $66,148,186 - North Carolina
    $64,412,343 - Virginia Tech
    $64,396,612 - Virginia
    $61,203,340 - Boston College
    $59,624,100 - Maryland
    $59,180,652 - Clemson
    $54,511,968 - Georgia Tech
    $46,849,990 - Miami
    $45,632,223 - North Carolina State
    $39,961,624 - Wake Forest

    07-08 Pac-10 Athletics Budgets
    $76,661,466 - Stanford
    $76,409,919 - USC
    $66,088,264 - UCLA
    $64,326,057 - California
    $60,729,016 - Washington
    $56,623,901 - Oregon
    $54,833,194 - Arizona State
    $52,875,339 - Oregon State
    $49,241,506 - Arizona
    $39,621,060 - Washington State
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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by champion110 View Post
    I would think there would be more money in the SEC.

    According to the lsutimes, the Big Ten gives each member school about $22 million which is double the payout for each school in the SEC.

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by oledawg66 View Post
    According to the lsutimes, the Big Ten gives each member school about $22 million which is double the payout for each school in the SEC.
    Big Ten Conference Revenue 07-08
    $23,662,435 - Indiana
    $22,753,996 - Purdue
    $22,653,081 - Iowa
    $21,743,701 - Illinois
    $20,845,136 - Michigan State
    $20,732,405 - Michigan
    $20,152,945 - Wisconsin
    $18,871,037 - Minnesota
    $9,463,082 - Ohio State
    N/A - Northwestern
    N/A - Penn State

    SEC Conference Revenue 07-08
    $14,178,616 - LSU
    $13,138,751 - Florida
    $12,995,297 - Kentucky
    $12,925,282 - Arkansas
    $12,811,908 - Georgia
    $12,246,757 - Auburn
    $11,566,425 - South Carolina
    $11,155,952 - Mississippi State
    $10,864,745 - Ole Miss
    $10,864,150 - Tennessee
    $7,229,425 - Alabama
    N/A - Vanderbilt
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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg06 View Post
    Big Ten Conference Revenue 07-08
    $23,662,435 - Indiana
    $22,753,996 - Purdue
    $22,653,081 - Iowa
    $21,743,701 - Illinois
    $20,845,136 - Michigan State
    $20,732,405 - Michigan
    $20,152,945 - Wisconsin
    $18,871,037 - Minnesota
    $9,463,082 - Ohio State
    N/A - Northwestern
    N/A - Penn State

    SEC Conference Revenue 07-08
    $14,178,616 - LSU
    $13,138,751 - Florida
    $12,995,297 - Kentucky
    $12,925,282 - Arkansas
    $12,811,908 - Georgia
    $12,246,757 - Auburn
    $11,566,425 - South Carolina
    $11,155,952 - Mississippi State
    $10,864,745 - Ole Miss
    $10,864,150 - Tennessee
    $7,229,425 - Alabama

    Much better than the lswhotimes! Where does Vandy fit??

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by oledawg66 View Post
    Much better than the lswhotimes! Where does Vandy fit??
    I don't know. The private schools don't have to report it.

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg06 View Post
    07-08 Big East Athletics Budgets
    $32,281,546 - Cincinnati
    Cincy sure gets some bang for their buck!

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaz17 View Post
    Cincy sure gets some bang for their buck!


    My thoughts exactly! The do more with less too.

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    That list of conference distributions doesn't include NCAA dists I think. So a higher level of competition in football and basketball would be a consideration. I think the big 10 does ok in that department.

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by FishingBack View Post
    That list of conference distributions doesn't include NCAA dists I think. So a higher level of competition in football and basketball would be a consideration. I think the big 10 does ok in that department.
    Yes it does... It's conference and NCAA revenue..

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Article on the WAC 16 experiment and what it might mean for the Big 11/16:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...html?eref=sihp

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by hookdown View Post
    Article on the WAC 16 experiment and what it might mean for the Big 11/16:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...html?eref=sihp
    Finally Benson says something smart:

    As the ratings came in during the first year of the 16-team league, it became obvious that just because TCU was in the conference didn't mean people in the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex would tune in en masse. Ditto for Rice and the Houston market and San Jose State and the Bay Area market.
    "Just because you have Houston in your market doesn't mean you can deliver Houston," Benson said. "One of the other keys to a large number of schools is how much they can deliver your population. ... We advertised that we had the Houston market, the Dallas market and the San Francisco market, and yet there was such minimum penetration."


    That is where CUSA was misguided, as well - even after the WAC break up. They have gone after programs with large market areas, but that doesn't mean those programs can deliver those markets. Let's hope they learned their lesson on that.



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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    yet there was such minimum penetration
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