Some of you really crack me up. Tech is just as conservative as Baylor, yet we've been a member of the WAC since 01 and I have yet to hear one disparaging word about our cultural differences.
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Some of you really crack me up. Tech is just as conservative as Baylor, yet we've been a member of the WAC since 01 and I have yet to hear one disparaging word about our cultural differences.
Originally Posted by TECH88
You don't know much about Baylor if you believe that.
Yeah, I second that
Where have you been? Do you not read the board during Hawaii week?
Jordan Mills on choosing Tech:
“It’s a great experience seeing them play. It was a good atmosphere. The fans stood up the whole game and never sat down. They have a great fan base.”
Apples & Oranges.
First, Baylor isn't tied to Southern Baptist anymore. Also, Baylor is already an AQ school, whereas BYU is not. Frankly, BYU is still on the outside, looking in. On the other hand, Baylor is in, and trying to STAY in.
Secondly, BYU doesn't have TEXAS, TX A&M, and TX Tech carrying it along like Baylor does. Don't underestimate that.
In short, Baylor is an academic institution that has proven itself to be competitive in Men's Basketball (Elite 8), Women's Basketball (Final Four), Baseball (Big 12 Tournament Runnerup), Men's Tennis (Top 8), and several other sports, save for football.
HD
2009 Average Football Attendance
Baylor - 36,306
BYU - 64,236
2009 Football Massey Ratings
Baylor - 78
BYU - 13
2009-10 Average Men's Basketball Attendance
Baylor - 7,457
BYU - 14,029
2009-10 Men's Basketball Final RPI
Baylor - 8
BYU - 24
Media Market Rankings
Baylor - 95
BYU - 35
USNWR Academic Rankings
Baylor - 80
BYU - 71
BYU has a lot to offer. They double Baylor's football and basketball attendance, and they offer Top 25 football and basketball programs. They also offer Salt Lake City compared to Waco.
No one disputes that BYU has a ton of support in UTAH!!! Clearly they are the class of the MWC. They always have been. But......
Baylor = AQ
BYU = NOT
Baylor = Package deal with TX, TX A&M, & TX Tech
BYU = NOT
That's a powerful distinction. Don't underestimate the "package deal" concept. (Of course, if you don't live in Texas, I can certainly see why you wouldn't understand. It's "Political").
BTW, your media market rankings hurt your street cred, because you totally omitted the Dallas market from Baylor's media market. Baylor's main campus is only 90 miles from Dallas. Also, downtown Dallas is home to the Baylor School of Medicine, the Baylor School of Dentistry, and the Baylor School of Nursing. Baylor athletics clearly fit into the Dallas media market.
HD
Hogdawg, you are the only person that I know that cares about Baylor. FWIW.
Jordan Mills on choosing Tech:
“It’s a great experience seeing them play. It was a good atmosphere. The fans stood up the whole game and never sat down. They have a great fan base.”
Baylor College of Medicine is in Houston, and Baylor College of Dentistry is part of Texas A&M.
Sorry, I know this frustrates some of you guys....but I'm smart enough to see that Baylor has deep alumni connections in the state legislature in Texas, and has a history of flexing its muscle when needed.
There's a lot of money associated with the Baylor name in Texas, including the schools of Medicine, Denistry and Nursing in Dallas. Baylor has much more clout than most "outsiders" realize. Baylor has an endowment of over $1 BILLION. But more importantly, unlike many states (including Louisiana) where jealousy often gets in the way of good business sense, the state of Texas is smart enough to fight to get an extra school in an AQ conference because they know it's good for business, good for education, and good for Texas.
I'm not saying it's a slam dunk that Baylor will be included in the new PAC 16, but I am saying it's going to be much tougher to leave Baylor out than most "outsiders" understand.
HD
Elton John accepted a cool million to play El Rushbo's latest wedding - $$$$$$$, especially BIG BIG $$$$$, help soothe all differences -
''Don't be a bad dagh..."
Pretty sure BYU's endowment is over 500M.
Jordan Mills on choosing Tech:
“It’s a great experience seeing them play. It was a good atmosphere. The fans stood up the whole game and never sat down. They have a great fan base.”
I'm a huge Rush fan, but I have noticed a lisp as of late.
Where have you been? I've read post after post about how ultra baptist Baylor is not a good fit for the Pac 10.
Because they don't think very highly of Baylor. Duh!Where have you been? I've read post after post about how ultra baptist Baylor is not a good fit for the Pac 10.
Jordan Mills on choosing Tech:
“It’s a great experience seeing them play. It was a good atmosphere. The fans stood up the whole game and never sat down. They have a great fan base.”
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