He was leaning toward us. USL has gotten a few decent players lately.
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He was leaning toward us. USL has gotten a few decent players lately.
Didnt fit into our numbers
Rumor is he is actually commited to us. ULL writer jumped the gun.
Waiting on confirmation.
Scout and Rivals has him listed as commited to Louisiana. I don't like us losing anyone to them but he probably just wanted to stay close to home.
JFORD just published a story. He is coming to Tech.
sweet...Porter too
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Originally Posted by OmahaDawg
Whos Porter?
Tyler Porter...another DL...6 foot 310 lbs...from Northside HS in Lafayette
Somebodies right somebodies wrong. Right now I will go with Scout and Rivals who have Alsander going to ULL. Hopefully we do have him though.
He's coming here.Quote:
Originally Posted by ANODESSEY
Louisiana? WTH?Quote:
Originally Posted by ANODESSEY
This is the reason we should consistantly oppose the name thing. Folks get lazy with the references after reading it repeatedly. It is sad when TECH folks become indoctrinated by lesser minds.
Great choice by a smart young man!
Love how Alsander chose Tech because of the high graduation rate. It's a virtually overlooked statistic in the major college football community, but it means a lot to me that our athletes are getting quality educations and will become leaders even after the pads come off. That's very respectable of Alsander.
Just stateing fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by maddawg
What fact?Quote:
Originally Posted by ANODESSEY
Chew...Alsander committed to LaTech tonight...sorry
We shall see.Quote:
Originally Posted by OmahaDawg
Fixed it for ya, don't sell your Monroe brethren short by dropping the "L" off y'all's name.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew4219
Rivals is now showing him being a Tech commit.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew4219
Scout and Rivals has him listed as a commit to Louisiana. I call ULL ULL. Scout and Rivals don't. The fact is when I am passing on information that someone else has said then I repeat it accurately.Quote:
Originally Posted by maddawg
SweetQuote:
Originally Posted by techfan01
So now we know the USL writer for Scout, Rivals, and ANODESSY are all full of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ANODESSEY
its Tech.
This one isn't on Cajun T, its on Josh Parrott (ULL's version of Ethan Conley). Parrott reported the ULL commitment this morning.
Ford has a direct quote from Zeke saying he's coming to Tech.
My bad. I assumed CajunRedZone.com reported it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CChandler
I'd love to hammer T but this happens to the best of them. Every site has had a few mis-reports on recruiting in the past. If it is Tech, really nice pickup here, and it reads like Zeke's deciding on a school for the right reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
Did ULL really get Alonzo Harris? Or is that a mistake? It looks like on Rivals he is only interested in Louisville but it shows him as a ull commit on scout. He's the number two fullback in the country.
Ull is "Louisiana-Laf" on rivals.Quote:
Originally Posted by ANODESSEY
Tech > ULL just a fact
Yes, it is a fact, as well as landing Qyen Griffin who is a HS All American RB from South Panola. He rushed for 2600 yards and 40 TDs on the number 1 HS team in the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by techfan01
On Rivals it shows Qyen Griffin as a commit to the Lafayette Leopards.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew4219
Coach Dykes is Ballin out of Control this weekend!!!! Way to go Coach and staff. Damn we are looking strong in the recruiting game.
It's unfortunate he probably won't qualify.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew4219
Griffin is a nice pick up...will he have his grades? What position did USL recruit him to play? LB or RB?Quote:
Originally Posted by chew4219
WOW! Looks like those recruiting trailers are paying off! :laugh: Go to ULL/ULM to play in the Sunbelt. Go to Tech to play quality football and get a quality education. Fact: Alsander chose Tech over ULL, because he is concerned about getting a quality education. If you need confirmation, on why guys are chosing TECH over ULL (besides to play quality football), check out QB, Nick Ishams (Tech commit) offers. You will find Tech and Harvard, Penn, Cornell, & Princeton.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew4219
Bingo. There is always a story to these random "to good to be true commits". In the meantime, we are signing kids that have offers from Ivy Leaue schools.Quote:
Originally Posted by bdawg34
Looks like we are really going after guys to play on both lines and I like it!
It's not even close among any of the in-state schools. Coach Dykes has completely seperated La Tech from ULL, ULM, and Tulane
Scout stubbornly insists that Alsander is committed to ULL. I'm not that interested in the kid one way or another, but what the heck is correct?
I can't change him on scout unless he directly tells me or a public media outlet that he is committed to Tech. The last comment he made as far as scout is concerned is that he committed to them, so their writer marked him as committed to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by LookingForResults
My hands are tied until I can get in touch with him.
Fact: Louisiana Tech does not play "Quality Football" not in two years anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldogfan1
Fact: Your not an Ivy league school. Never will be.
Now how about you shove the recruiting trailor thing up you a## and get real with who you guys really are. A football team trying to establish some identity and respect nationally, just like ULM or USL.
For the record, what makes tech academically Superior to ULL? Please bqck it up with something of substance
You obviously cannot handle the truth. LOL. Pick any metric and we are better.Quote:
Originally Posted by cajun82
Wow man seriously? What isn't Tech better at, academically speaking?Quote:
Originally Posted by cajun82
http://news.latech.edu/2011/01/13/ca...lassification/Quote:
Originally Posted by cajun82
Here's one for you.
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Originally Posted by Cal&Ken
Sorry, ULL is, too.
http://classifications.carnegiefoundation.org/lookup_listings/view_institution.php?unit_id=160658&start_page=sta ndard.php&clq={%22basic2005_ids%22%3A%2216%22}
Using that phrase will never do anything good for you on this message board or in any situation around Tech folks. Tsk tsk...Quote:
Originally Posted by cajun82
We know how to use the proper contractions, punctuation, and capitalization. Also, we know how to make complete sentences and spell correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by cajun82
At least we don't ban you and edit your posts. Welcome back.Quote:
Originally Posted by cajun82
I've been playing around a bit on ULL's message board lately, but I refrain from typing "ULL," since it always corrects you... THAT is just silly.
ULL and it's fans have major max insecurity issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ktulu7
All of these statistics are from US News and World Report: Best Colleges 2011.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._5265148_n.jpg
Acceptance Rate
63% - LA Tech
67% - Lafayette
Freshmen in Top 10% of High School Class
19% - LA Tech
17% - Lafayette
Freshmen in Top 25% of High School Class
48% - LA Tech
42% - Lafayette
Freshmen in Top 50% of High School Class
77% - LA Tech
75% - Lafayette
Average High School GPA
3.3 - LA Tech
3.2 - Lafayette
ACT Composite 25th-75th Percentile Range
20-26 - LA Tech
20-24 - Lafayette
ACT Math 25th-75th Percentile Range
20-27 - LA Tech
19-24 - Lafayette
ACT Composite scores from 30-36
7% - LA Tech
2% - Lafayette
ACT Composite scores from 24-29
38% - LA Tech
29% - Lafayette
4-Year Graduation Rate
26% - LA Tech
13% - Lafayette
5-Year Graduation Rate
42% - LA Tech
33% - Lafayette
6-Year Graduation Rate
46% - LA Tech
42% - Lafayette
Peer Assessment Score
2.2 - LA Tech
2.1 - Lafayette
Undergraduate Academic Reputation Index
51 - LA Tech
50 - Lafayette
Graduation and Retention Rank
201 - LA Tech
224 - Lafayette
Faculty Resources Rank
161 - LA Tech
221 - Lafayette
Classes with fewer than 20 students
47.5% - LA Tech
28.1% - Lafayette
Classes with 50 or more students
8.5% - LA Tech
9.1% - Lafayette
Student/Faculty Ratio
21:1 - LA Tech
22:1 - Lafayette
Student Selectivity Rank
150 - LA Tech
205 - Lafayette
Alumni Giving Rank
98 - LA Tech
207 - Lafayette
Alumni Giving Rate
14% - LA Tech
7% - Lafayette
From PayScale.com
http://www.payscale.com/content/coll...010_logo01.gif
Median Starting Salary
$42,800 - LA Tech
$39,600 - Lafayette
Median Mid-Career Salary
$86,000 - LA Tech
$71,500 - Lafayette
Pretty much Dawg06 just said "Boo-Ya!"
Google, Bing, Yahoo...take your pick. Look it up yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by cajun82
Here you go!Quote:
Originally Posted by cajun82
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Originally Posted by Dawg06
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Originally Posted by Dawg06
From the 2010 Washington Monthly College Rankings
http://www.taylor.edu/dotAsset/180436.jpg
Overall Rankings
#242 - LA Tech
#247 - Lafayette
Social Mobility Rank
#217 - LA Tech
#224 - Lafayette
Bachelor's to PhD Rank
#191 - LA Tech
#240 - Lafayette
Science & Engineering PhDs Awarded Rank
#187 - LA Tech
#194 - Lafayette
Faculty Receiving Significant Awards Rank
#121 - LA Tech
#214 - Lafayette
Peace Corps Rank
#234 - LA Tech
#246 - Lafayette
Community Service Participation & Hours Served Rank
#122 - LA Tech
#138 - Lafayette
Service Staff, Courses, and Financial Aid Support Rank
#40 - LA Tech
#138 - Lafayette
From the governor of Louisiana, Bobby Jindal...
Quote from the News-Star, Nov 11, 2009:
"Louisiana Tech is a model that other universities should look to for guidance"
From the Louisiana Board of Regents 2009-10 statistics
http://web.laregents.org/wp-content/...07/B0R-med.png
6-Year Graduation Rates (more updated than the USNWR rates)
53.16% - LA Tech
46.44% - Lafayette
Time-to-Degree for 1st-Time Baccalaureate
4.7 years - LA Tech
5.5 years - Lafayette
Stafford Loan Default Rates
5.0% - LA Tech
6.3% - Lafayette
Productivity (Total Funding Per Degree)
$46,854 - LA Tech
$53,388 - Lafayette
Can we change the wording under Dawg06's name from "Champ" to "Fact Master"
It's so nice to see all you Bulldogs playing with your little brothers, being nice, answering questions...makes me proud.
I like the lil Cajuns. It's a good school and at least their fans/supporters don't worship at the puke purple/vomit yellow altar like folks at other in-state schools do.
Y'all be nice to the lil Cajuns now, ya hear!
I prefer "Something of Substance" as Cajun82 would say... :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by ITdrummer
I've seen them. His metrics are laughable because they mean nothing or aren't accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by slappycajun
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Originally Posted by slappycajun
I think you mean ULL. If for whatever reason we do start playing one another the UL nonsense is done.
Hey everyone calls it UL in Lafayette where I am at, so I'm used to it. I'm not a big name freak.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeltaBlueDawg
Why can't mighty Tech, and LAFAYETTE (if that makes you feel good) have a rivalry games in all sports every year.
We should play in small sports a home and home every year.
Also, I think if the schools are smart, and Hudspeth can get our program going we should play each other in football every year. One year Shreveport, one year in New Orleans. Market the hell out of it, and if scheduled correctly we could get the state of LA to focus on something besides LSU for one Saturday a year.
You might as well play LSU every year, I mean do you guys really want to schedule another gimme loss every year?Quote:
Originally Posted by slappycajun
Well played sir. You guys have dominated us.
This would be about trying to get a game together that would help to highlight both the programs, should draw a good crowd, and should get a Cox TV slot.
I don't mind playin' ULL in football sometimes, though I don't know about EVERY year, as I'd much rather visit the folks from Hattiesburg annually again... However, definitely in all other sports, our teams should be playing yearly in my opinion. Even though we got our asses kicked, I enjoyed catchin' a Tech-ULL baseball series in Lafayette. When my Dawgs aren't playin' or I can't see them for whatever reason, I go catch a ULL football game usually. Hell, I've met my future wife there at Cajun Field (no worries guys, I inducted her into Bulldog-ism and brought her to Ruston soon afterward!) and at least you guys have a FEW fans that don't worship the sons-o-bitches on the other side of the Atchafalaya...Quote:
Originally Posted by slappycajun
The guy claims that ULL is better than Tech academically because...Quote:
Originally Posted by slappycajun
- ULL has a larger enrollment than Tech. :laugh:
- Lafayette's population is greater than Ruston's. :laugh:
- Lafayette's MSA is greater than Ruston's. :laugh:
- ULL has more books & microforms in their library. :laugh:
- ULL was a charter member of NCAA Division IA. :laugh:
- ULL offers 1 more PhD program, and they are planning to offer 1 more in the future. :laugh:
- ULL has 5 "research parks" to Tech's 0. (false)
- ULL has a larger endowment, but he grossly misrepresents the numbers. As published in the 2011 USNWR magazine, ULL's endowment is $54,213,335 compared to Tech's $47,409,922, which makes Tech's endowment larger per FTE.
- He says that Tech has no PhDs in the sciences, but yet Tech graduates more PhD students in engineering & the sciences than ULL (26 for Tech, 23 for ULL per 2010 Washington Monthly).
His only legitimate claim is ULL has greater research expenditures than Tech, but the difference isn't as drastic when you compare them per faculty member.
Or you could compare how much intellectual property Tech generates per research dollar compared with UL LAF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
But they research things like alligator tanning and the history of Mardi Gras!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
I'm not paying AUTM to get ULL's numbers, but I do know that Tech is #2 in the nation... and I doubt ULL is #1... lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
So ULLaf generates more research dollars. Has more research parks, etc. And a couple other categories that you refute. So the few categories we lead, combined with the number of categories you listed where you are ahead or almost tied would make the two schools fairly close right. Or is there that big of a separation in your mind?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
Anyway, I came here to talk about Alsander. It appears he recommitted to you guys after committing to us in a period of three hours after the visit. Our staff has an in home with him this week.
I guess we can look forward to a few more commitments/decommitments before the week is out.
Good luck to the kid whoever ends up with him.
Don't you have some "Sweatin' to the Oldies" to go do or something? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhZ2fYQj6IMQuote:
Originally Posted by slappycajun
First, each school has one research park and various research centers. Secondly, Tech is more productive with our research expenditures.Quote:
Originally Posted by slappycajun
I'm curious as to what the "etc" is. Which few categories did ULL lead? I believe Tech was ahead in everything I listed except research expenditures, which Tech has a greater ROI.
Surely you don't think that things like enrollment, city population, MSA, etc. have anything to do with quality education.
When I look at these numbers, it's pretty clear...
1. LSU
2. Tech
3. ULL
4-13. Everybody else
14. SUNO
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Originally Posted by slappycajun
It's ULL. Just in case you forgot.
LA TECH is now in Tier 3 of the prestigious Carnegie Research ratings. ULL is in Tier 4. Not too long ago, LSU made the next step from Tier 3 to Tier 1. Here in Houston, the mission of the President of U of H has been to move from Tier 3 to Tier 1, joining A & M and UT. Budget cuts are a concern.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrongBad
Interesting:
http://www.universityoflouisiana.net/
Good way to try to pimp your website. Good luck with your crusade. Again, I'm not a name freak, so if you are trying to bother me, its not gonna happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by SCBRONCS
You might note that that was SCBRONCS's very first post!
Nice post for number 1!
While true last year, there is no such thing as Tier 3 and Tier 4 anymore. Last year's Tier 3 is this year's Tier 1. Tech has been teetering back and forth between the 3rd and 4th quartile over the past few years. LSU is teetering back and forth between the 2nd and 3rd quartile. A&M and UT are around the 25%tile. ULL has always been in the 4th quartile.Quote:
Originally Posted by SCBRONCS
All of this back and forth name stuff is immaterial. "They're better, we're better" is infantile as well.
Our energies must turn to filling seats in the house for football and basketball, a viable and competitive conference, financial support (academically and athletically) and making sure our corner of the state is taken care of in the legislature. All else, including whatever UL-whatever is doing is hogwash.
Let's get over it, take care of #1 and keep moving ahead. :)
+100000000000000Quote:
Originally Posted by houndoggy1
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Originally Posted by HounDoggy1
With Jed Clampett in mind .... "Hoooooundoggy !!!!! "
You go that right.
Back to the topic, Scout has joined Rivals as reporting that Alsander is a LaTech commitment. We will see what happens Feb 2.
I think that he is yours. I'm pretty sure our coaches after the recent change and commitment have gotten another commitment since then.Quote:
Originally Posted by OmahaDawg
Congrats. I'm sure he is a good kid, who agonized over the decision.
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Originally Posted by Dawg06
I don't really have a dog in the hunt and to me it seems inarguable that La Tech is better academically, however, from the scathing comments you guys make I expected there to be some sort of gaping chasm between the two schools across the board in every category. You guys make it sound like ULL doesn't even belong in the same sentance as La Tech academically, but those statistics don't seem to bear that out. Again, Tech is clearly better, but not by the margin I would expect from the way you guys talk.
Kapp -Quote:
Originally Posted by MTSUPiKapp
The issue is that the ULL presents it as a major chasm in ULL's favor, and that's completely assanine. To listen to a ULL fan (in general) compare the two schools, you would think ULL is Texas and Tech is UT Arlington. It is truly ridiculous.
Louisiana Tech is the better school, the gap isn't that wide, and there are way too many 4 year schools in Louisiana. Those are the facts.
The fact-posting and neeny-nannaring on here is a direct result many ULL fans' ridiculous claims of academic dominance and flagship status.
Its crazy dealing with these guys and ULM sometimes. Like many have mentioned to you before (and you are a good poster), your school doesn't have a ULL/ULM problem. Until you do, you don't really understand where this all comes from. And we Tech fans apologies if residual hatred of the Sun Belt Conference comes out of that. But its a Lafayette and especially Monroe problem.
I don't think that we have ever wanted or argued (at least i haven't to be deemed the flagship of our system).
IMO, we are in the south, you guys are in the north. The two of us serve a little broader grouping of students than the other schools in our system.
I don't think us being called Louisiana would have any bearing on Tech, that is my personal opinion.
However, speaking of the chasm or gap talk. It is often said on here that Tech is superior by a wide margin in everything, and I don't believe that is the case.
My only dog in the hunt is that I think we should play every year. we have played football 84 times against one another, now we never do.
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Originally Posted by CChandler
And I've acknowledged these facts before as well. There was a time when I came in here waving the Sun Belt banner high and proud, but I've come to realize that there is way more going on politically in Louisiana higher education than there is in Tennessee and there is far more bad blood in Louisiana higher education than there is in Tennessee and believe it or not there is a fair amount of politics and bad blood involved in Tennessee higher education. The amount of political clout that UTK has, is insane, they routinely block us from getting things that we need, often in favor or things that UTK probably doesn't even want, they just serve the purpose of keeping us from getting the funds.
When it comes to the innerworkings of La Tech and ULL/ULM I defer to your more intimate knowledge of the situation. Honestly, I do not accept either side as being solely correct, there are two sides to every story, both probably exaggerated(not necessarily equally so) and as a distant outsider, I'll never know the real story. There's no point defending them to you guys and there's no point placating them by telling them that they're right and you guys are jerks. I don't know the real story, so I just let you guys fight it out amongst yourselves.
Totally respect that, Slappy. ULL should 'flagship' higher learning in Acadiana, and Tech in the I-20 cooridor. That's the logical way to do things, but we all know why that won't happen.
I'm sorry, but no one is buying the branding of ULL as 'Louisiana' as purely an athletics concept. We've all read and seen this thing plotted from the beginning, and for years its been clear that the intention has been using the name change to enhance the image the university by instituting the false promotion of "The University of Louisiana" as this mythical land grant behemoth of a university. That's clear. Many ULL say all the right things -- 'oh, its just for sports' -- but that's not really the truth. Just read RP for a week.
Of course this argument has been going on for years and no one is ever going to 'win', and hey that's how two schools that have played 84 times should be to one another. But the Louisiana thing is just ridiculous. Lots of respect for ULL otherwise, but the name thing just leaves us scratching our heads. Should have never changed the name in the first place, if you ask me.
From my experience, ULL fans degrade Louisiana Tech and the city of Ruston much more frequently than the opposite. Tech fans hate ULM, and they hate Karl Benson. There's mild annoyance at ULL with the name thing. ULL fans hate them some Ruston and they really hate Derek Dooley.
Honestly the entire SBC's fascination with Tech is crazy and almost flattering as a fan. Look at simply the first pages of the SBC board, ULL board, ULM board, Arkie State board....so much Tech talk. Someone has to wear the black hat, but damn. Its almost obsessive.
Just take a look at ULL's Facebook page "The University of Louisiana" or The Daily Advertiser. It's more than just athletics, and ULL folks who deny it are not telling the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by CChandler
They are using the old democrat trick and people are falling for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
Frog in the pot of water.
Hey. I can understand that. People take a lot of pride rightly or wrongly in the city of Lafayette. I have lived a bunch of different places. I will always like it because its home, and I know some people who have no connection to the area that absolutely love it. However, I can also appreciate Ruston is home to folks.Quote:
Originally Posted by CChandler
I can completely understand your desire to not be a conference with ULM. My desire is just as strong.
Again, I'm not a big name junkie. Ole USL was fine with me. But, hey it is what it is. My main argument here is I think the our two schools should be in the same conference. I actually think our constant bickering about which school is better would actually lead to improvements on our campuses if we played against one another, it may actually drive improvements and better coaches and all sorts of things. But I digress.
I wish you guys the best of luck. I don't like you from a fan stand point, that's why I want to play you so bad. I think the separation talk is silly. But again let's just play the games on the field. If we get our sh*t together ever on the football field the rivalry could be tremendous in all sports.
That's a stupid statement and completely false. LaTech is referred to across this state as "Tech".Quote:
Originally Posted by chew4219
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by THEarmada
Yep! and also in east Texas and south Arkansas too.Quote:
Originally Posted by THEarmada
I was in New Mexico a few years back (ski trip....okay, a falling and sliding down the slope trip :icon_roll:) and we were in the local town one evening. I was wearing a hat that reads "TECH" and it's mostly red with royal blue trim and some white. A woman says to me, "Go Red Raiders!" her husband says, "Honey, I think that's a Louisiana Tech hat." Which I quickly confirmed. He said he noted the royal blue color....
Just an anecdotal (sp?) story.
Your point is valid. We're not ridiculously better in any one category....but we are consistently better in EVERY category.Quote:
Originally Posted by MTSUPiKapp
The cumulative effect is is what's significant.
The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
Well stated and correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbone1
They refer to La Tech as Tech in El Dorado and Hot Springs too
When I was young and my older brother was going to TECH, I didn't know there was any other tech out there. It always was and always will be TECH. The other techs need the state qualification.
I guess from the way some of you talk, I expected there to be a much larger difference, but to be fair, by the way some ULL fans talk, I would have expected it to be closer than it is and with them having the advantage in at least a few categories.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbone1
This all boils down to, for me, just another example of how I just don't have the knowledge or proximity to the situation to make my own informed opinion. There was a time when it was easy to think that the ULL and ULM guys were always right and that you guys were always the bad guy simply because of the way most of you talk about the Sun Belt, but just because you guys bash my conference, doesn't mean you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to ULL and ULM. I know that there is truth, exaggeration and probably somethings that go beyond exaggeration on Tech's end and I know there is truth, exagerration and probably some things that go beyond exaggeration on ULL/ULM's end. At the end of the day, I realize that just because I'm conference mates with ULL and ULM and just because you guys have such a bad perception of my conference(largely because of ULM), doesn't invalidate every last thing you guys say.