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    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    But you also have to see, Christians have this built in lie that because of the act the person or group does, they are not Christian for doing it. They disassociate themselves from that person or group. Islamist do not deny their people because they have sinned. They either ignore it, correct it, or when dealing with the extreme, kill over it.
    Doesn't the Bible say all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God? And there's a verse or two (or ten or twenty) about judging others, right? I always wonder how one Christian justifies questioning the status of another Christian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maverick View Post
    I always wonder how one Christian justifies questioning the status of another Christian.
    Check out Matthew 18 (and most of Paul's letters).

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    The headline is "Protests fail to silence anti-gay sermons from Christian preachers". That is the headline of a story about a preacher who advocates execution of gays. Doesn't seem like such a leap to me.

    I can't find the link to the Canadian story I was referring to, but it was about a preacher who's sermons were broadcast over the radio. He called homosexuality a sin in one of the sermons and was charged with a hate crime. Something similar happened to Mark Styne.

    I can't vouch for this paper, but it's the closest thing I could find real quick that related to my canadian comments: http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectiv...aspx?id=135546
    I think you may be talking about Stephen Boisson. But again, it wasn't Canada, but Alberta and only after there was a complaint filed. They didn't start anything. http://catholicexchange.com/canada-o...nce-his-faith/ http://www.wnd.com/2008/06/66704/ Oh, and it was overturned, though the initial complainant is appealing it. I don't think they'll be successful because even the head of the Alberta council that initially found Boisson guilty says it is a matter that should never had been taken up.

    Pretty much, with Boisson and Styne, they are victims of the tactics we see the EPA doing here. Someone causes a big mess in the papers, et al. that these people are evil (without stating a truthful why), then the eventual vindication is swept under the rug and ignored.

    There is also a Dale Mcalpine in the UK that was arrested the same way. Charges were dropped though. Conflict of interest and horrible misinterpretation of the law seemed at play here. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...ia/8687395.stm

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    Not being reported by the liberal main stream media. These are the folks that Obama and Hillary want running the Syrian Government.

    Opposition demanding Syrian Christians leave

    Mass evacuations, catastrophic refugee problem looming for region

    Published: 15 hours ago

    BEIRUT, Lebanon – Syrian Christians are being given ultimatums by military commanders of the nation’s opposition movement to leave their homes, prompting what observers say is a form of ethnic cleansing, according to Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin.

    The demands come from the Sunni opposition, whose leaders are seeking the ouster of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, who is Alawite, an offshoot of the Shiites, G2Bulletin has learned.
    The Assad regime generally has protected the Christians, and some serve as senior officials in the government. While many Christians regard the Assad regime as repressive and want an open, democratic, inclusive and religiously tolerant society, they realize that there will be no such developments with a change of regime.
    Instead, they believe Assad is the only guarantor of secularism in Syria, under which Christians and Muslims both have rights.
    With the demonstrations and increasing violence, however, Christians and other minorities in the country face threats by the predominant Sunni population, which is more radical and seeks the exit of non-Sunnis.
    As a result, the Christians, who make up some 10 percent of the 22 million Syrian population, have shown support for the existing Syrian government, much to the consternation of the opposition, which increasingly is being infiltrated by al-Qaida and other Islamic fundamentalist groups.
    Among those is the Muslim Brotherhood, which considers the Christians to be infidels. As a result of the ultimatums, Christians are being forced from their home towns and the surrounding countryside, where they are strong and are taking refuge with friends and family in Damascus.
    In turn, sources say the opposition has confiscated their goods and property, burned down churches, committed executions and launched what now amounts to a sectarian war.
    This kind of targeting of Christians is reminiscent of the brutal treatment they received in Iraq, where hundreds of thousands of Christians fled Islamist militants following the ouster of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

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    http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/oppositio...istians-leave/

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    Muslim mob stones Christians – in U.S.!
    It happened in America: Hundreds of angry Muslim children and adults rioted against Christians, throwing chunks of concrete and eggs at their heads, spraying them with urine and cursing at them – while police stood by and threatened the Christian victims with "disorderly conduct."

    You have to watch the shocking video of this vicious attack …

    Click here to read the full article.

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    Re: More persecution of Christians

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    Muslim mob stones Christians – in U.S.!
    It happened in America: Hundreds of angry Muslim children and adults rioted against Christians, throwing chunks of concrete and eggs at their heads, spraying them with urine and cursing at them – while police stood by and threatened the Christian victims with "disorderly conduct."

    You have to watch the shocking video of this vicious attack …

    Click here to read the full article.


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    New movie: Jesus is product of Mary being raped

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    A new Hollywood film in the works that some are already calling blasphemous will portray Jesus as the product of His mother Mary being raped by a Roman soldier, and show that miracles mentioned in the New Testament were not real.
    Paul Verhoeven, who directed previous hits including “Robocop,” “Total Recall” and “Basic Instinct,” is basing the movie on his 2008 book, “Jesus of Nazareth.”

    According to Deadline.com, Verhoeven’s take on the life of Jesus discounts all the miracles mentioned in Scripture, including the virgin birth and the resurrection, as Verhoeven doesn’t believe any of them actually took place.
    Perhaps the most controversial of Verhoeven’s notions is that “Jesus might have been the product of his mother being raped by a Roman soldier, which Verhoeven said was commonplace at the time, and that Jesus was a radical prophet who performed exorcisms and was convinced he would find the kingdom of heaven on earth, and did not know he would be sentenced to die on the cross by Pontius Pilate,” Deadline reported.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    So only Christians should be immune to vandalism?
    There was a time when churches would never be touched by vandals, mostly out of respect, but the people in this country have lost their believe in God. So, the churches are now fair game.

    One thing I'm still seeing in Tylertechsas' posts is wnd.com. It's one of the most disreputable news sources, and many forums just like this one and like a lot of Christian forums will not allow postings from wnd.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrongBad View Post
    There was a time when churches would never be touched by vandals, mostly out of respect, but the people in this country have lost their believe in God. So, the churches are now fair game.

    One thing I'm still seeing in Tylertechsas' posts is wnd.com. It's one of the most disreputable news sources, and many forums just like this one and like a lot of Christian forums will not allow postings from wnd.com.
    Actually the main issue with WND that some wish to stay away from is their "birther stance" which they are still hitting as hard as possible. They are solid constitutionalist and it is reflected in many of their articles.

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    50 Christians burned to death in pastor's home

    Nation becoming 'killing fields' as Islamists declare, 'Convert or die'

    Published: 2 days ago

    Fifty members of a northern Nigerian church were burned to death in their pastor’s house.
    The attack by armed gunmen was only the first in a 12-village spree of violence that left over 100 dead in northern Nigeria’s Plateau State, a region that had previously been outside Islamic terrorist group Boko Haram’s operational area and is the largely Muslim Fulani tribesmen’s homeland.

    Yet Boko Haram claimed responsibility for the attacks and threatened even more violence.
    Open Doors, USA spokesman Jerry Dykstra says the recent wave of attacks is rapidly turning Nigeria into a deadly religious battlefield, where Boko Haram is declaring Christians must convert … or die.
    “Nigeria is truly becoming the new killing field for Christians. Hundreds of Christians have already been brutally murdered – including women and children – by the Boko Haram,” Dykstra said. “The Boko Haram earlier this week said that all Christians need to turn to Islam or ‘they would never know peace again.’ Their goal is make all of Nigeria a country run and dominated by Shariah law.”
    Church of Christ of Nigeria officials report that all of their denomination’s church buildings were burned to the ground in the 12-town rampage.

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    http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/50-christ...-pastors-home/

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    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    50 Christians burned to death in pastor's home

    Nation becoming 'killing fields' as Islamists declare, 'Convert or die'

    Published: 2 days ago

    Fifty members of a northern Nigerian church were burned to death in their pastor’s house.
    The attack by armed gunmen was only the first in a 12-village spree of violence that left over 100 dead in northern Nigeria’s Plateau State, a region that had previously been outside Islamic terrorist group Boko Haram’s operational area and is the largely Muslim Fulani tribesmen’s homeland.

    Yet Boko Haram claimed responsibility for the attacks and threatened even more violence.
    Open Doors, USA spokesman Jerry Dykstra says the recent wave of attacks is rapidly turning Nigeria into a deadly religious battlefield, where Boko Haram is declaring Christians must convert … or die.
    “Nigeria is truly becoming the new killing field for Christians. Hundreds of Christians have already been brutally murdered – including women and children – by the Boko Haram,” Dykstra said. “The Boko Haram earlier this week said that all Christians need to turn to Islam or ‘they would never know peace again.’ Their goal is make all of Nigeria a country run and dominated by Shariah law.”
    Church of Christ of Nigeria officials report that all of their denomination’s church buildings were burned to the ground in the 12-town rampage.

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    http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/50-christ...-pastors-home/

    Mexico gang attacks Christian youth camp
    14 July 2012 Last updated at 19:40 ET

    Continue reading the main story Mexico's drugs war


    Mexican police are searching for an armed gang that attacked a Christian youth camp outside Mexico City.
    Prosecutors said the gang subjected the campers to an ordeal lasting several hours. Seven girls were sexually assaulted and other youths were beaten.
    The attackers took cash, cameras and mobile phones and escaped in two stolen vehicles

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-18845208

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    CNN's taking their frontal assault on Christians today on their web site. Not saying that some of this isn't true because it is. Just noticing.




    Opinion: Church can learn from NCAA




    Sanctions against Penn State show that the NCAA takes child sex abuse more seriously than the Catholic Church, Stephen Prothero argues. FULL STORY | ERASING SCHOOL'S LEGACY? | EX-PENN STATE PRESIDENT: I WAS ABUSED
    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/0...rch/?hpt=hp_c1


    And this one on the front page. Not to mention that parts of what U.S. Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Texas Republican, said were taken out of context per his site (feel free to look it up).
    LZ: Christians, stop the hate
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/24/opinion/granderson-christians/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


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    Attacking Catholic Church corruption is not persecution of Christianity.

    Granderson is as liberal as one can be, but he does get some things right every now and then. I think you hate it because it so succinctly describes you. And Gohmert's comments were not taken out of context. Gohmert is backtracking because he knows he screwed up instead of keeping in character and owning up to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    CNN's taking their frontal assault on Christians today on their web site. Not saying that some of this isn't true because it is. Just noticing.

    Opinion: Church can learn from NCAA




    Sanctions against Penn State show that the NCAA takes child sex abuse more seriously than the Catholic Church, Stephen Prothero argues. FULL STORY | ERASING SCHOOL'S LEGACY? | EX-PENN STATE PRESIDENT: I WAS ABUSED
    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/0...rch/?hpt=hp_c1


    And this one on the front page. Not to mention that parts of what U.S. Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Texas Republican, said were taken out of context per his site (feel free to look it up).
    LZ: Christians, stop the hate
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/24/opinion/granderson-christians/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

    I have not seen the Gohmert remarks in their entirety, so I can't comment on that. But, why do you call the posting about the NCAA's handling v. the Catholic Church's handling an "assault?" Even you admit it's true. I don't see this as religious persecution. Just because a liberal or the liberal media says it doesn't mean it's not true.

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    Re: More persecution of Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by maverick View Post
    But, why do you call the posting about the NCAA's handling v. the Catholic Church's handling an "assault?" Even you admit it's true. I don't see this as religious persecution. Just because a liberal or the liberal media says it doesn't mean it's not true.
    As an example, have you seen them truly frontally attack the Islamic faith for their beliefs per the killings of millions? How about seeing them go to presses/print using the Islamic faith, by quoting the Koran sura by sura and verse by verse, against Muslims? Or even critiquing their Mohammed or Allah on the front page or web site? I doubt you ever will.

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