when people use the excuse that we lost a lot of players last year, it's pathetic. We have more than just two starters coming back from last year, and even if that's all we had losing to Army 35-16, losing to Tulane and Kansas is very inexcusable. But again we gave up 35 points to Army, no excuse for Holtz and the coaches there. I don't like to complain, but I'm Tired of all these excuses being made for Holtz!