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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    You do realize he got injured on the first play of the game against Rice and didn't play against Tulsa and UTSA? The last game he played was USM and he had 200 yards. Some of the crap y'all say.
    Yep.....KD struggled with nagging injuries all year. That stuff consistently happens to bad football teams.

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Yep.....KD struggled with nagging injuries all year. That stuff consistently happens to bad football teams.
    I bet Holtz was hitting him too hard in practice.

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    I bet Holtz was hitting him too hard in practice.
    Maybe. I'm not close enough to the team to know that. It could be a conditioning issue. All I know is, it's a 12-game schedule, not 9. And it's 13 games if you include a bowl game. We need our players to run thru the tape.

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    The truth is he took a brutal hit in game 2 (Lamar) and never really recovered. He didn't play against Tulane, Rice, Tulsa, or UTSA (all losses). We would have been 1-11 if he was not on our team.

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Most of the "experts" in the mags picked us to be bowl eligible. I think. Sporting News had us at #3 in the conference preseason. So now, Tech fans weren't the only ones who expected more.

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    You have to follow along. 80 said he knew we were going to suck when we hired Holtz. I said most of the nation knew we were going to suck before we hired Holtz. Most seem to think the head coach (not all the coaches, just the head coach) is causing us to lose and very few will say it's because we lost a ton of players and are playing with a bunch of new guys. I've even seen them poo poo that as just an excuse from the head coach. JL, we were freakin terrible. Be thankful our schedule was so easy or we would have been blow the f out a lot! (like what Rice did to us).
    Really? I'd like to see a couple preseason publications that said we were going to suck as bad as we did (115th of FBS schools in the Sagarin Predictor). Everybody knew were weren't going to be as good as last year, but I don't recall a single publication predicting we would be the bottom 10 caliber team that we turned out to be. As I recall, most preseason publications predicted us in a bowl game this year.

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    The truth is he took a brutal hit in game 2 (Lamar) and never really recovered. He didn't play against Tulane, Rice, Tulsa, or UTSA (all losses). We would have been 1-11 if he was not on our team.
    Thanks to that floater that Young threw to him on that screen pass, after that Young should have never played again.

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    But he only played 9 games. The kid's a stud. I can't believe y'all can't even see that.
    Dixon is awesome everyone see's that. Hunter Lee should have gotten some carries when Dixon was banged up and he could have healed up from his nagging injuries. I doubt that Holtz watched film of the 2011 season, he left Lee at WR because Dykes had him there. Lee started out as a WR in 2011, but when some injuries at RB happened Dykes moved him to RB. Dixon and Lee are both every down backs that would make a really great 1-2 punch.

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    No one knew we were going to suck as bad as we did, but they knew their would be a significant dropoff when you lose that many players. They knew Dixon was good, Banks was OK, and the DL was good. The rest was all up in the air (because no one had ever seen those players play before). Turns out the OL struggled, the QBs struggled, and the WRs struggled. The defense improved, but not significantly enough to make up for the poor offensive play. But this was not shocking. It usually happens like this.

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by upsetpuppydog View Post
    Dixon is awesome everyone see's that. Hunter Lee should have gotten some carries when Dixon was banged up and he could have healed up from his nagging injuries. I doubt that Holtz watched film of the 2011 season, he left Lee at WR because Dykes had him there. Lee started out as a WR in 2011, but when some injuries at RB happened Dykes moved him to RB. Dixon and Lee are both every down backs that would make a really great 1-2 punch.
    Blake Martin is as good as Lee at RB, imo.

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    Blake Martin is as good as Lee at RB, imo.
    How so? What has Blake Martin done? Hunter Lee led us to a conference championship and a bowl game in San Diego. Do you choose to ignore our 2011 season like you choose to ignore Skip's time at USF?

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by upsetpuppydog View Post
    How so? What has Blake Martin done? Hunter Lee led us to a conference championship and a bowl game in San Diego. Do you choose to ignore our 2011 season like you choose to ignore Skip's time at USF?
    A bit of a stretch.

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by maverick View Post
    A bit of a stretch.
    Not much. Without Hunter Lee, we don't make it to San Diego in 2011. Period.

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Not much. Without Hunter Lee, we don't make it to San Diego in 2011. Period.
    Yes, the stats prove it.

    He would have continued to kick ass against TCU if Franklin hadn't decided to showcase his system in the second half.

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    So, what happened to HL in 2012? Seems Dykes/Franklin didn't utilize him any more than Holtz did this year.

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