Analyzing UNT

[HogDawg]

Don't try to put Louisiana Tech on the same level as a UT. What difference does it make if we pass for a lot of yards or not? If we end up with more points on the board than Tech, we win. Doesn't matter how we do it.

Oh puleeze. Save that elementary school argument nonsense for someone on the elementary school level.....like a UNT fan. If you're not interested in talking "game strategies" here, feel free to leave.

Fact is, UNT got its' ass whipped by a very, very green and inexperienced Texas team, and only threw for 15 yards in the process. That's not gonna cut it against most P5 schools, or good G5 teams. Now I'm not asking you to defend it, or come up with some smart ass quip.....just understand that your opposition KNOWS that your not going to beat them thru the air.

[Dogsince65]

One thing that makes me more confident is the lack of UNT trolls, usually if G5 fans are confident they'll win we will see an up-tick in trolls. UNT is no exception remember 4-5 years ago coming off 4 straight SBC championships they came over and were almost as bad as the ULLers we just dealt with; ended up blowing their doors off as well.

we are now very experienced at handling trolls -- my first experience with mentally challenged trolls was last week -- actually got to love the absurdity--BUT not as much as kicking their butt and reading the web page-- man , those guys are seriously messed up.

[Dogsince65]

I share the sentiment on trolls, so I'll certainly avoid being one.

Here's the one thing you should really note about us: our best offensive weapons are really our defense. No really, they score the most for us. Additionally, we're all about field positioning and dictating the range with which opposing teams have to work with. As such, our special teams play is phenomenal. Now granted, that certainly didn't phase Dixon with that 99-yard run last week - WOW.

I know a few of you believe that Sokol will have a great day throwing, but our Secondary is actually the most experienced bunch on the whole UNT field and do not allow for any YAC whatsoever - that is, if it's not intercepted. Now however Sokol is still a stud and we could only wish for one of our three QBs to step up like he has.

Quick correction on the Turnover margins: you were correct on last week's solid +5, but at Texas we ended up only -2, not -4.

What's actually poetic about this Thursday match-up is how similar our seasons started: blow-outs by established Big XII powers but still showed great signs of life and indications of good play down the road... followed by absolute wallopings on bitterly hated in-state rivals. Your score does not reflect how dominant you truly were in that game as does ours; it would have been a complete shut-out save for the last four seconds and...



One last point of note: while you are right that Sokol should not be afraid to take the sack if there's nothing ready down the field, know that in two games, we've already ended the season for three QBs and a starting Center (David Ash and Dominic Espinosa-Texas, Neal Burcham and Matt Davis-SMU).

good job fussbudget-- not often a visitor comes across as well as you did. Get a green dot from me. Hopefully the rivally with you guys will be #1. Lot of folks do not realize CUSA picked NT over Tech for admittance few years ago-- I have 5 tickets for game but will have to miss, friend died last nite..... but I will be watching on TV

[Dogsince65]

One of the things I noticed in the ULL game was Sokol throws to his right way more than his left or the middle.

He seems more comfortable passing to the right. ULL never picked up on this.

picking on weakest link on ULL defensive secondary---

[DocMarvin362]

Ask them to invite all of our Commitments on an official visit.

[Dogsince65]

Don't try to put Louisiana Tech on the same level as a UT. What difference does it make if we pass for a lot of yards or not? If we end up with more points on the board than Tech, we win. Doesn't matter how we do it.

you would hope so but in reality FANS are fickle, I personally love hard nosed defense and ground game but fans love wide open games now --lots of passing and points. Agree with opinion that winning is more important than entertaining but building fan base is easier when you are leading nation in offense, with a balanced attack. You guys aver about 19k and thats with 30 k attendance from Houston game. 70% winning record. Again, from pure logic--winning is all that counts BUT the old Charlie Mac 4 yards and cloud of dust does not bring new fans. My nephew just graduated from NT--great young man, but he never attended a game --sister and law, same thing.

[laxtonto]

FYI,

but those who are trying to use the transitive property with UNT/UT are conviently forgeting that after the UNT game the UT team that played BYU was missing thier starting QB due to concussions, a broken ankle for thier C and then had 2 OT's suspended. The UT OL that played BYU had a total of 6 starts vs the one vs UNT had 40+ starts.

Amazing what injures and suspensions will do. The UT D was legit for an entire half vs BYU though, then ran out of gas.

Additionally, UT blitzed 24 of the first 26 plays against UNT's QB (on his first FBS start) and thier DT's owned the LS. I am not sure that LT has the horses to get away with that strategy.

SMU was just pitiful (UNT brought thier subs in early in the 3rd Q), so the real issue is that nobody really has any idea of how productive the UNT O and D really are.

[HogDawg]

My nephew just graduated from NT--great young man, but he never attended a game --sister and law, same thing.

Wow. That kind of gives credence to UNT's "old" reputation as a commuter school, doesn't it?

[champion110]

FYI,

but those who are trying to use the transitive property with UNT/UT are conviently forgeting that after the UNT game the UT team that played BYU was missing thier starting QB due to concussions, a broken ankle for thier C and then had 2 OT's suspended. The UT OL that played BYU had a total of 6 starts vs the one vs UNT had 40+ starts.

Amazing what injures and suspensions will do. The UT D was legit for an entire half vs BYU though, then ran out of gas.

Additionally, UT blitzed 24 of the first 26 plays against UNT's QB (on his first FBS start) and thier DT's owned the LS. I am not sure that LT has the horses to get away with that strategy.

SMU was just pitiful (UNT brought thier subs in early in the 3rd Q), so the real issue is that nobody really has any idea of how productive the UNT O and D really are.

I agree with that statement. Even if both games were at full strength for UT, though, we would still be left with a puzzle. It is too early in the year to make much of a educated guess on many teams.

What we DO know is that UNT likes to run the ball, has not been efficient through the air, has a stout run defense, and last year concentrated on our only weapon (Dixon). This year, we know that Dixon is just one weapon. If we mix it up, it will keep their defense a lot more honest. Plus, we did not have an air attack at all last year. Our defense is suspect, though, against the run. The only way to beat that is to get a head start and make them go to their passing game. Don't let them score and manage clock all night.

[Dwayne From Minden]

Psych's would not make near the money off of UNT that they would analyzing USL...

FWIW

[champion110]

Psych's would not make near the money off of UNT that they would analyzing USL...

FWIW

Or ULM........ The twins.......

[DeepGreen]

Oh puleeze. Save that elementary school argument nonsense for someone on the elementary school level.....like a UNT fan. If you're not interested in talking "game strategies" here, feel free to leave.

Fact is, UNT got its' ass whipped by a very, very green and inexperienced Texas team, and only threw for 15 yards in the process. That's not gonna cut it against most P5 schools, or good G5 teams. Now I'm not asking you to defend it, or come up with some smart ass quip.....just understand that your opposition KNOWS that your not going to beat them thru the air.

HogDawg, don't get you bowels in an uproar! It's possible Louisiana Tech would also get their ass whipped by the same green, inexperienced Texas team. They still have better athletics than either UNT or Louisiana Tech. And that's pretty elementary! So ease up francis, and let's play the game.

[SlimJimWillie]

One of the things I noticed in the ULL game was Sokol throws to his right way more than his left or the middle.

He seems more comfortable passing to the right. ULL never picked up on this.

USL noticed... They just couldn't do anything about it!

[LATechBanjo]

I watched the SMU game.

It's hard to overstate how bad SMU is. They shot themselves in the foot all game. UNT (especially the secondary) wasn't really tested, IMO. Probably 3 of the 5 turnovers were complete gifts.

Pegram is a beast - a little smaller than Alonzo Harris, but also a little faster. By no means KD fast. He's going to get his yards. The two freshman backs are going to be great for UNT. QBs (especially the starter) are serviceable with an effective run game, but had really lousy arm strength. Think Nick Isham/Taylor Bennett.

Because SMU kept turning to ball over (I'm telling you, it was a train wreck), their defense was on the field all game at noon in Dallas. I thought SMU actually handled the run OK while the game still mattered.

The SMU game doesn't tell us much about UNT....

To the contrary, I think ULL is nowhere near as good as their billing. We may have honestly just demolished a cupcake Saturday. Hopefully ULL was a tougher cupcake than SMU.

Making it simple: 1 turnover or less required. Sokol determines if we win it or not.

[ETXBULLDOG]

NTx will try to hurt Sokel