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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    What did they do with the money from the tax?

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    What did they do with the money from the tax?
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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Is $300k a significant amount of money for the Camping World dude?

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    With a reported net worth of around $150 million and having watched his show I'd say he'd see $300k as significant.

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    Marcus Lemonis has a pretty good track record. He made an offer to the I-Bowl and they refused. He made a good business decision. The I-Bowl had no leverage but negotiated like they did.

    I love it, screw those bastards.
    But everybody doesn't know that. Many could view it differently. I'm a big fan of Marcus Lemonis, and have been for a long time. I know his style. But, 90% of the folks living in the Shreveport area have never heard his name. The right thing to do here is to quietly move his tent on down the road, and make as few waves as possible when leaving. Be quiet and classy. It's not his job to fix the I-Bowl.

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    if an independence bowl falls in the forest, does anyone hear it?

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    But everybody doesn't know that. Many could view it differently. I'm a big fan of Marcus Lemonis, and have been for a long time. I know his style. But, 90% of the folks living in the Shreveport area have never heard his name. The right thing to do here is to quietly move his tent on down the road, and make as few waves as possible when leaving. Be quiet and classy. It's not his job to fix the I-Bowl.
    Lemonis is a Profit, HogDawg, you just can't understand his deep knowledge. Further 90% of the folks living in the Shreveport area live below the property line and are unlikely to shop at Camping World.

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    So, some scientific survey was conducted polling Shreveporters and the results were 50+% agreed Tech should be closed to support LSUS. Where can we find that survey with its results?
    If scientific evidence was required as back up to every post made on BBB, this forum would shut down today. I was expressing my OPINION of what people in Shreveport think of Tech. I lived in Bossier for nine years before moving to Baton Rouge 21 years ago. I know how the Shreveport citizens I knew then felt about Tech. I know how Shreveport citizens I know today feel about Tech. I also know how LSU people I know in BR feel about Shreveport. If anything, the relationship between Tech and Shreveport is worse today than it was 21 years ago.

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    No, you posted "in fact." Had you posted "in my opinion" I wouldn't have said what I did. However, I would still challenge that notion as an opinion too. Here's why, IN MY OPINION, the majority of Shreveport doesn't care enough to have an opinion/view point on the whole Tech vs. LSUS issue. So, again, this is just my view of it, and these numbers are meant as guesstimates, but I would guess (w/o tangible evidence to support my contention) that 60% simply don't care. And the remaining 40% is roughly split along these lines:

    1. Want LSU-BR to take an even larger role in supporting LSUS 20%
    2. Just want LSUS to be better/stronger and are OK with if it's LSU-BR or Tech that does it 15%
    3. Want Tech to take over LSUS 5%

    I do think, IMO, that Shreveport, as a whole, doesn't really care that much about anything. It's a laid-back town where the status quo is acceptable. It's a place without an identity. And they don't care that they don't have one.

    And I definitely, defiantly!! challenge that asinine notion that 50% of Shreveport want Tech closed. That is stupid!! I know you can find Tech-haters in Shreveport, if you looked hard enough, who would agree with that. Heck, I will state right here: I want Grambling closed, I want ulm made a JUCO again. Not that I think either will ever happen. And my opinion hardly represents a majority.

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    http://www.shreveporttimes.com/story...tore/96888744/
    It sounds like Lang agrees with Lemonis, and also wants changes to tie-ins.

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by kbm86 View Post
    http://www.shreveporttimes.com/story...tore/96888744/
    It sounds like Lang agrees with Lemonis, and also wants changes to tie-ins.
    They are contracted through 2019 though. The I-Bowl has significant debt, no sponsor, and will have to pay $7M+ over the next three seasons if a crappy SEC and ACC team qualify. They won't survive to be able to make a change in tie-ins.

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    I just read Roy Lang's column and it all comes down to he thinks the I Bowl has to condescend to having little ole Louisiana Tech come bail them out again. Someone needs to tell him to get a grip. Ain't gonna happen. HOD and Armed Forces Bowl wanted us when I Bowl didn't. Bottom feeders from the SEC and ACC can't compare with C-USA/AAC championship contenders. They might could get SBC runner up (their champ is going to the NO Bowl) but who would play them. I honestly do not believe we would want to play an also ran from the Belch. I guess a third level MAC team would. Lang doesn't even acknowledge the HOD and Armed Forces Bowl, but tries to compare the I Bowl to the Music City Bowl. The HOD has a $1.1 million payout that isn't reduced for G5 schools as far as I can tell. The Armed Forces Bowl had only a $650K in 2015. Those are the bowls they would be contending with for C-USA/AAC schools.

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    No, you posted "in fact." Had you posted "in my opinion" I wouldn't have said what I did. However, I would still challenge that notion as an opinion too. Here's why, IN MY OPINION, the majority of Shreveport doesn't care enough to have an opinion/view point on the whole Tech vs. LSUS issue. So, again, this is just my view of it, and these numbers are meant as guesstimates, but I would guess (w/o tangible evidence to support my contention) that 60% simply don't care. And the remaining 40% is roughly split along these lines:

    1. Want LSU-BR to take an even larger role in supporting LSUS 20%
    2. Just want LSUS to be better/stronger and are OK with if it's LSU-BR or Tech that does it 15%
    3. Want Tech to take over LSUS 5%

    I do think, IMO, that Shreveport, as a whole, doesn't really care that much about anything. It's a laid-back town where the status quo is acceptable. It's a place without an identity. And they don't care that they don't have one.

    And I definitely, defiantly!! challenge that asinine notion that 50% of Shreveport want Tech closed. That is stupid!! I know you can find Tech-haters in Shreveport, if you looked hard enough, who would agree with that. Heck, I will state right here: I want Grambling closed, I want ulm made a JUCO again. Not that I think either will ever happen. And my opinion hardly represents a majority.
    OK. What I should have said that "in my opinion" instead of "in fact". I still maintain, however, that in my experience, I've met more people in Shreveport with a negative view of Tech than I've met a positive view. I think you grossly underestimate the level of delusion that has always plagued Shreveport. There are many in Shreveport that still struggle to understand why there aren't LSU/Arkansas and Saints/Cowboys games played every year in Shreveport. One last thing I'll add is that the LSUS graduates that I know all call themselves LSU graduates, not LSUS graduates. Those same people also tell me point blank that they think their LSUS diploma is more valuable than a Tech diploma.

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by kbm86 View Post
    http://www.shreveporttimes.com/story...tore/96888744/
    It sounds like Lang agrees with Lemonis, and also wants changes to tie-ins.
    Breaking news from Roy Lang: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by brtransplant View Post
    OK. What I should have said that "in my opinion" instead of "in fact". I still maintain, however, that in my experience, I've met more people in Shreveport with a negative view of Tech than I've met a positive view. I think you grossly underestimate the level of delusion that has always plagued Shreveport. There are many in Shreveport that still struggle to understand why there aren't LSU/Arkansas and Saints/Cowboys games played every year in Shreveport. One last thing I'll add is that the LSUS graduates that I know all call themselves LSU graduates, not LSUS graduates. Those same people also tell me point blank that they think their LSUS diploma is more valuable than a Tech diploma.
    I hold a degree from both schools. My Tech degree is an undergraduate one, and my LSUS is an MBA. They both opened doors for me at a point in my professional/career life. My Tech degree got me off and winging, as a youngster, with International Paper. Later, the MBA from LSUS opened some other doors for me. I also hold an undergrad and a Master's degree from NSU. Each of those provided opportunities for me.

    But, more to your point, you must run in a different circle than I do. I have NEVER, not once, met anyone who truly held a negative view of Tech. Oh sure, there are the NSU grads who say they "hate" Tech, but that's aimed at sports and is really said TIC. After you cut thru the ribbing about athletics, every one of them, to a person, acknowledge their admiration for Tech and all the university has accomplished.

    Maybe you need to find another circle....

    As for the delusional aspect of Shreveporters, yeah, I have encountered that as well. Has a lot to do with the city/community lacking its own identity.

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