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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by hambone29 View Post
    We've seen pretty bad QB play two consecutive weeks.
    J'Mar is young so growing pains are to be expected, but game-changing turnovers are the kind that aren't and shouldn't be tolerated.

    Say what you want about Baker and the defense, but our offense/special teams giving the other team extra possessions with a short field aren't making Baker's job any easier.

    I don't see Smith being a 3 year starter. I bet Jack Abraham is kicking himself for transferring. Our future at QB is a true freshman right now.
    He should be- no one should have a lock on the job for sure. It has been very ugly the last 2 weeks. J Mar may have tons of potential, and you can see flashes, but he is not ready this year.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by Cal&Ken View Post
    He should be- no one should have a lock on the job for sure. It has been very ugly the last 2 weeks. J Mar may have tons of potential, and you can see flashes, but he is not ready this year.
    Abraham must not have been a team player. He was not willing to fight for the job. Not having a backup to press a brand new starter is not good for the team.

    I'm glad he left.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Abraham must not have been a team player. He was not willing to fight for the job. Not having a backup to press a brand new starter is not good for the team.

    I'm glad he left.
    I agree!!

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by qng001 View Post
    Pretty silly for our backup QBs to have transferred.
    Agree with this. After what I've seen in 2017, Jack Abraham is the biggest loser (other than us, of course.) If he had hung around a couple of more months, he'd be our QB now, and we'd be rolling. I cannot believe Holtz let him walk out.

    As I've been saying here on BB&B since 1999, college football is all about the QB. Fix that, and you fix the problem.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by ETxBullDawg View Post
    Hell he looks like he is scared to run.
    ^^^THIS!! J'Mar is acting like he's scared to death out there, and the game is way too fast for him. Holtz better be looking at other options.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Classic overreacting here. J'Mar is a sophomore with a Swiss cheese OL. That's the best defensive front we'll face all year.

    Yes, it was ugly. Yes, it was about as bad as I've seen in Ruston. Yes, it was the best team we'll play all year.

    Let's see what happens next week.
    It's NOT an overreaction. J'Mar is doing almost everything wrong. No exaggeration. I'm not going to list all his flaws because frankly, we'd be here til Thursday. Suffice it to say, J'Mar is a turnover machine, that is playing like a deer in the headlights. He does everything in slow motion, including throwing his passes, making handoffs, etc...

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    It's NOT an overreaction. J'Mar is doing almost everything wrong. No exaggeration. I'm not going to list all his flaws because frankly, we'd be here til Thursday. Suffice it to say, J'Mar is a turnover machine, that is playing like a deer in the headlights. He does everything in slow motion, including throwing his passes, making handoffs, etc...
    Last week you were singing Smith's praises.

    He sucked last week too. It just happened to be against a horrible team.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    I've noticed over the years that after a bad game some fans tend to say, "our receivers could not get open". JMO, but at the college level receivers get open unless the corner they face is SUPER talented and those are very rare. It's the amount of separation they get and the extra time the QB is allowed to find them. Both take time to develop and the job of our coaches to work them into form. It is a process not an automatic.

    IMO, we should have stuck with the simple game plan we used at Arkansas last year, but I assume COYHCSH wanted to gear up for Western next week.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Last week you were singing Smith's praises.

    He sucked last week too. It just happened to be against a horrible team.
    I did not sing Smith's praises last week. And for God's sake, don't make this about me. I didn't play last night. But I was in attendance, and I stayed until the very bitter end. No fun was had by all.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Let's play Walker he has a better arm

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    I've noticed over the years that after a bad game some fans tend to say, "our receivers could not get open". JMO, but at the college level receivers get open unless the corner they face is SUPER talented and those are very rare. It's the amount of separation they get and the extra time the QB is allowed to find them. Both take time to develop and the job of our coaches to work them into form. It is a process not an automatic.

    IMO, we should have stuck with the simple game plan we used at Arkansas last year, but I assume COYHCSH wanted to gear up for Western next week.
    Idk. I thought we were blanketed all night. State looked much more athletic to me than in years past.

    I think you are going to see a focus on the run going forward. Scott and Craft in the game at the same time. I also think we are going to have more separation going forward due to opponent.

    J'Mar is an obvious talent to me. I hope we can get it together quick to salvage the season. What worries me the most about the future is I don't see a young Trent Taylor, Carlos Henderson, or Kenneth Dixon on the roster.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladzilla View Post
    Let's play Walker he has a better arm
    For the record, Westin Elliott came in and drove his team 90 yards to pay dirt, in 15 plays that covered 6:09. Not bad. I realize he probably wasn't playing against MSU's' "one's" for most of that drive, but he still succeeded at doing what he was SUPPOSED to do. And he didn't turn the ball over, and he didn't look scared doing it.

    By the way, MSU head coach Dan Mullen did NOT want LA Tech to score that last TD. In addition to arguing the TD pass catch at the end of the game (and foolishly asking for a video review) Mullen re-inserted his first team defense when Elliot and Tech drove the ball deep into MSU territory. I think Elliott and Zach Cousar scored that last TD against mostly MSU starters.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by touchdown123 View Post
    What worries me the most about the future is I don't see a young Trent Taylor, Carlos Henderson, or Kenneth Dixon on the roster.
    Of the three you named, only Dixon was a stud as a 2nd year player. He was also a stud as a true freshman.

    Carlos was very raw as a freshman. He had less than 600 yds in 12 games played. Not bad, but not what we expected from him and he was suspended right off the bat.

    Trent was an over achiever who had less than 300 yds as a true freshman. He got better and better each year, but even though he led the team as a 2nd year player, I don't think he was expected to do what he did. No way to gauge heart.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    It's NOT an overreaction. J'Mar is doing almost everything wrong. No exaggeration. I'm not going to list all his flaws because frankly, we'd be here til Thursday. Suffice it to say, J'Mar is a turnover machine, that is playing like a deer in the headlights. He does everything in slow motion, including throwing his passes, making handoffs, etc...
    He may not be "the answer", but it's WAY too early to pull him. He played against a great D that had his WR's blanketed all night. Our huge OL did their matador impersonation last night too.

    It was TERRIBLE last night, no doubt, but we won't face anybody else that stout on D (USC may have a better scheme, but they won't have the same level of athletes).

    We're still right where we thought we'd be. If J'Mar struggles against WKU like he did last night, I'll rethink my position.

    I think most of you have forgotten what it's like to have a Sophomore QB. He'll screw up and make our blood pressure go up, but, with good coaching, we'll reap the benefits the next two years.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    He may not be "the answer", but it's WAY too early to pull him. He played against a great D that had his WR's blanketed all night. Our huge OL did their matador impersonation last night too.

    It was TERRIBLE last night, no doubt, but we won't face anybody else that stout on D (USC may have a better scheme, but they won't have the same level of athletes).

    We're still right where we thought we'd be. If J'Mar struggles against WKU like he did last night, I'll rethink my position.

    I think most of you have forgotten what it's like to have a Sophomore QB. He'll screw up and make our blood pressure go up, but, with good coaching, we'll reap the benefits the next two years.
    I agree that J is worth investing in. However, if he turns the ball over against WKU, he needs to be benched immediately.

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