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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    especially since Disney is already in bed with the two big breasted babes

    Just another reason why Disney is the man!! :icon_wink:

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    Could it be that the MWC is hot and wet for Boise because they know TCU is gone back east to the BigXii once Nebraska & Mizzou bolt?

    I just don't see the made for Tv 20 being sexy enough to drive the numbers on a new TV deal - especially considering that neither league has their own network like the SEC & Big10 does....

    Remember it took both of those leagues 3/4 years to get into this position with their networks - you have to have those independent networks to drive the $$$$ - especially since Disney is already in bed with the two big breasted babes
    Something on your mind, DfM?

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Mizzou denies newspaper request regarding correspondence with Big 10: http://www.columbiamissourian.com/st...big-ten-talks/
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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Mizzou denies newspaper request regarding correspondence with Big 10: http://www.columbiamissourian.com/st...big-ten-talks/

    In the comment section....


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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    The latest news tonight.

    Expansion looms over Big Ten meetings

    By ANDREW SELIGMAN, AP Sports Writer
    2 hours, 25 minutes ago

    http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ap-bigtenmeetings

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Nebraska and Mizzou are BOTH tired of what they view as an unfair revenue sharing structure. Nebraska doesn't like being second fiddle (or third...UT, OU, then Nebraska) and in the weak division.
    +1. And this feeling has been growing since the conference was first formed and from day one they were mad about the real or percieved power that Texas has compared to them. Especially so when seeing where they sat in the old Big8.

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    They may not - it might be Utah or BYU...

    But they are hot and heavy for them for some reason outside of "hopefully" attaining AQ status automatically when all the number crunchers show it will not get them there


    The first invite for refilling the Big 12 will go to Arkansas. As has been discussed on this and several other threads, who knows if they accept or not. Pluses on both sides for the UofA. I doubt they do ($$$$$$), but you never know. The second choice will be BYU. Third choice will be New Mexico. BYU and New Mexico bring in new markets and TV sets. Outside of those three, it is pretty much up in the air as to whom gets invited. TCU has the rep, but does not add anything in the way of $$$$. Plus, it might make it harder for the anybody not named Texas, A&M, or OU to recruit the DFW area if they are in the Big 12.

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by hookdown View Post
    The first invite for refilling the Big 12 will go to Arkansas. As has been discussed on this and several other threads, who knows if they accept or not. Pluses on both sides for the UofA. I doubt they do ($$$$$$), but you never know. The second choice will be BYU. Third choice will be New Mexico. BYU and New Mexico bring in new markets and TV sets. Outside of those three, it is pretty much up in the air as to whom gets invited. TCU has the rep, but does not add anything in the way of $$$$. Plus, it might make it harder for the anybody not named Texas, A&M, or OU to recruit the DFW area if they are in the Big 12.
    This could be exactly how it plays out if the Big 12 manages to lose three schools or less. Given what Texas Tech's chancellor said last week, it looks like the Big 12 wants to expand into new markets if it loses a few members. That would likely eliminate the Texas schools.

    I think Arkansas and BYU turn them down for different reasons. Arkansas will not leave the money and stability of the SEC and BYU appears unwilling to relent on its stance on not playing on Sundays, which will likely be a condition for the invitation.

    New Mexico is a natural choice. It would give the league the Albuquerque TV market, which is bigger or as big a market than Memphis, Buffalo, New Orleans, and Oklahoma City. Also, if the Big 12 and Pac 10 partner for TV purposes, it gives them continuos coverage in the southwest US from California through Texas.

    A TV partnership with the Pac 10 may eliminate Colorado State. Even if Colorado were to jump to the Pac 10, Colorado would still own the Denver TV market, and that market would be shared by the Big 12 in the partnership. The same holds true if Utah would be invited to the Pac 10. The new TV venture would have the Salt Lake City market with or without BYU.

    There is one caveat to all of this, and that's the thought the Pac 10 and Big 12 might want to cut the MWC off at its knees and kill its drive to AQ status. That might open the door for TCU. TCU would not add much in the way of TV dollors, but it would, along with a Utah bid to the Pac 10, eliminate future competition from another AQ league in the same region of the country.

    For the same reason, I think the Pac 10 would expand to 12, and the Big 12 would add schools to get back up to 12. There are a few open markets that give them value, and there are many political reasons for both conferences to do so.

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Thought this was interesting (and yes, I know it's bleacher report...look at the points he makes, not the name on the top of the screen):

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...t-from-fiction
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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Thought this was interesting (and yes, I know it's bleacher report...look at the points he makes, not the name on the top of the screen):

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...t-from-fiction
    There are some very interesting thoughts in that article.

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    There are some very interesting thoughts in that article.
    Makes me wonder if what is best for Tech is for Notre Dame to accept, UCF to be added as an all-sports member to the BE (puts them back at 18 for bball and 9 for football) and Tech take UCF's place in CUSA...with Memphis still in the league, I think we've got a leg up on MTSU and I honestly think they are our main competition if this goes down this summer.

    Everything would be relatively stable for a few years and we could better position ourselves for higher consideration once things get moving again.
    Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Makes me wonder if what is best for Tech is for Notre Dame to accept, UCF to be added as an all-sports member to the BE (puts them back at 18 for bball and 9 for football) and Tech take UCF's place in CUSA...with Memphis still in the league, I think we've got a leg up on MTSU and I honestly think they are our main competition if this goes down this summer.

    Everything would be relatively stable for a few years and we could better position ourselves for higher consideration once things get moving again.
    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Thought this was interesting (and yes, I know it's bleacher report...look at the points he makes, not the name on the top of the screen):

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...t-from-fiction
    Good article and better than average for Bleacher Report. More recent articles like this one make me wonder if we're looking at a less volitle situation than it initially appeared.

    Knowing how hard we have been working CUSA, I feel better about our prospects of getting to move. I'm less worried CUSA will get decimated by wholesale changes and being a less attractive conference. I think the most likely candidates to leave CUSA are ECU to ACC and UCF to Big East. If that's all that happens, and we get in, I really like the remaining conference!

    This horse has been beaten within an inch of its life, though. I'm ready for something to happen. Come on June!

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by tenacious_dog View Post
    Good article and better than average for Bleacher Report.
    According to Forbes (or Fortune, can't remember which), there are. . .



    He makes some good points, but if you want to be taken seriously (even on a message board) you've got to do better than that. He'd have been better off to just make his assertion and not cite anything. Who does he think he is, Hogdawg?

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    According to Wally Hall, sports editor of the Ark. Demozette, in today's paper, said that Arkansas will receive about 25 million this year from the SEC. Alabama and Florida will receive about 30 million. He believes the only conferences that will expand are the Big 10 and the Big East.

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    Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Makes me wonder if what is best for Tech is for Notre Dame to accept, UCF to be added as an all-sports member to the BE (puts them back at 18 for bball and 9 for football) and Tech take UCF's place in CUSA...with Memphis still in the league, I think we've got a leg up on MTSU and I honestly think they are our main competition if this goes down this summer.
    Johnny:

    That's why the Big 10 expanding in phases and pulling at least one Big East school is important to Tech. If one slot opens in the Big East, it is also important to have one of the replacement schools be either UCF or ECU and not Memphis.

    If Memphis is the replacement, there will be a lot of pressure by ECU, UCF, and Marshall to add another school in the east due to travel costs. If one of the other schools besides Memphis is the choice, the remaining schools in the east likely wouldn't be able to swing enough votes (more than 1) to keep the replacement school from coming from the west.

    Eight of the remaining 11 members would be needed to add a school if it came to a vote. If ECU or UCF would leave, I think Tech would have at least 8 votes and maybe 9. We've turned some of our negatives into positives in the past seven years. Our TV numbers have debunked the market argument, our budget has grown dramatically, we've moved up a tier academically, and we've improved facilities with real plans for continued improvement.

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